10/13 Democratic Debate

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Bad Moon Risen'
First, you criticize me for stating it.

Then you say China has more people when I prove it to you.

It all just goes to show your naivety when it come to do with all things military.

You should have served our country, like I did.

Then you might have a clue.
China may have much larger ground forces than we have but have no way of deploying said forces and equipment to our soil. Hence, are really no threat to us in that regard.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
I've always liked Webb but I'm not sure what he was doing at that debate. I understand his reasons for leaving the republican party but he doesn't really fit with the modern democratic party either imho. He's kind of like a man from another era, a 1950's democrat or maybe a 1970's republican.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
China may have much larger ground forces than we have but have no way of deploying said forces and equipment to our soil. Hence, are really no threat to us in that regard.
You actually believe that?

Ever hear of a sucker punch?

China is not weak or feeble.

Their industrial might is 2nd to none.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Yea, I do.
The English Channel stopped Hitler from invading Great Britain.
The Pacific would stop the Chinese.
The English Channel did no such thing.

Hitler wanted Russia more than he wanted England.

Did you ever read a history book before?
 

Sportello

Well-Known Member
Guys, obviously @realbrown1 is a military genius, not to mention his grasp of history, no use arguing with him. The Chinese are smarter, tougher and more powerful than the USA. Their industry is second to none, at least in one person's mind.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
Germany NEVER had air superiority over England.

Russia was an easier target.

Army versus army.

Tanks versus tanks.

And Russia's air power was weak.
That's all very well, but you claimed that the English Channel had nothing to do with Hitler not invading England when in fact it had everything to do with it.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
That's all very well, but you claimed that the English Channel had nothing to do with Hitler not invading England when in fact it had everything to do with it.

Germany built a great land army and everything else was designed to support the army. Short range tactical bombers and they couldn't do much more than river crossings. With the dominance of the British navy an invasion was always very questionable. Or not until the British had been weakened considerably first. If Germany had been able to successfully land troops it would have been all over for England though.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
Germany built a great land army and everything else was designed to support the army. Short range tactical bombers and they couldn't do much more than river crossings. With the dominance of the British navy an invasion was always very questionable. Or not until the British had been weakened considerably first. If Germany had been able to successfully land troops it would have been all over for England though.
Eh, maybe. You might not be giving the brits enough credit though, folks tend to toughen up considerably when they're defending their home turf.
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
Eh, maybe. You might not be giving the brits enough credit though, folks tend to toughen up considerably when they're defending their home turf.
For the Brits to keep air superiority over England was a miracle.

Way outnumbered, they almost had their entire RAF destroyed.

But Hitler, in his brilliance, shifted the attack from the RAF and RAF airfields to the major cities of England.

Giving the RAF time need to return to full strength.
 

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Bad Moon Risen'
The English Channel did no such thing.

Hitler wanted Russia more than he wanted England.

Did you ever read a history book before?
But Grasshopper, you are again mistaken.

The Battle of Britain (German: Luftschlacht um England, literally "Air battle for England") is the name given to the Second World War air campaign waged by the German Air Force (Luftwaffe) against theUnited Kingdom during the summer and autumn of 1940. The Battle of Britain was the first major campaign to be fought entirely by air forces,[18] and was also the largest and most sustained aerial bombing campaign to that date.

The objective of the Nazi German forces was to achieve air superiority over the Royal Air Force (RAF), especially its Fighter Command. Beginning in July 1940, coastal shipping convoys and shipping centres, such as Portsmouth, were the main targets; one month later, the Luftwaffe shifted its attacks to RAF airfields and infrastructure. As the battle progressed, the Luftwaffe also targeted factories involved in World War II aircraft production and groundinfrastructure. Eventually the Luftwaffe resorted to attacking areas of political significance and using terror bombing strategy.[nb 10]

By preventing Germany from gaining air superiority, the British forcedAdolf Hitler to postpone and eventually cancel Operation Sea Lion, a planned amphibious and airborne invasion of Britain. However, Germany continued bombing operations on Britain, known as The Blitz. The failure of Nazi Germany to achieve its objective of destroying Britain's air defences in order to force Britain to negotiate an armistice (or even surrender outright) is considered by Steven Bungay to be its first major defeat in World War II, and a crucial turning point in the conflict.[20]

The Battle of Britain has an unusual distinction in that it gained its name prior to being fought. The name is derived from a famous speech delivered by Prime Minister Winston Churchill in the House of Commons on June 18, more than three weeks prior to the generally accepted date for the start of the battle:
 

realbrown1

Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.
But Grasshopper, you are again mistaken.

The Battle of Britain (German: Luftschlacht um England, literally "Air battle for England") is the name given to the Second World War air campaign waged by the German Air Force (Luftwaffe) against theUnited Kingdom during the summer and autumn of 1940. The Battle of Britain was the first major campaign to be fought entirely by air forces,[18] and was also the largest and most sustained aerial bombing campaign to that date.

The objective of the Nazi German forces was to achieve air superiority over the Royal Air Force (RAF), especially its Fighter Command. Beginning in July 1940, coastal shipping convoys and shipping centres, such as Portsmouth, were the main targets; one month later, the Luftwaffe shifted its attacks to RAF airfields and infrastructure. As the battle progressed, the Luftwaffe also targeted factories involved in World War II aircraft production and groundinfrastructure. Eventually the Luftwaffe resorted to attacking areas of political significance and using terror bombing strategy.[nb 10]

By preventing Germany from gaining air superiority, the British forcedAdolf Hitler to postpone and eventually cancel Operation Sea Lion, a planned amphibious and airborne invasion of Britain. However, Germany continued bombing operations on Britain, known as The Blitz. The failure of Nazi Germany to achieve its objective of destroying Britain's air defences in order to force Britain to negotiate an armistice (or even surrender outright) is considered by Steven Bungay to be its first major defeat in World War II, and a crucial turning point in the conflict.[20]

The Battle of Britain has an unusual distinction in that it gained its name prior to being fought. The name is derived from a famous speech delivered by Prime Minister Winston Churchill in the House of Commons on June 18, more than three weeks prior to the generally accepted date for the start of the battle:
Germany NEVER had air superiority over England.

Russia was an easier target.
Isn't that what I said?

And you disagreed with it at the time.

About time you accepted reality.
 
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