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<blockquote data-quote="island1fox" data-source="post: 680421" data-attributes="member: 4816"><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/sad-little.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":sad-little:" title="Sad Little :sad-little:" data-shortname=":sad-little:" />Falsifying time on diad or anywhere else is dishonest and both hourly and management should understand this and pay the penalty for violation.</p><p>I was both hourly and management in my career. Take a step back on this discussion for just a moment.</p><p>If you are in a building where the preload is always wrapped and the air is on time and the car doors are "closed" --Management has the right to inform you that the AM time --pcm plus full pre-trip should be no more than ten minutes.</p><p>With bubblehead's remarks --I disagree --this is not a game --if mgmt instructs you to attend the pcm, pretrip, check your first stop and leave --then you do that. If it is necessary to "sort" your load everyday --you would have to do it "on road" --As a driver you should not have to live with a poor load or dirty windshields --but if I was still in Management --I would honestly work with the people causing bubbleheads problems --and after his problems were resolved --would expect him along with the other drivers to make every honest attempt to be out of the building in ten .Also I do not want drivers to work "off" the clock.</p><p>As Danny and others have stated --do not falsify your diad ---push comes to shove --both you and the management person could be liable for discharge.</p><p>If some idiot management person is insisting you do this --as danny said -get it in writing --or have the union involved immediately --if not --other hourly witnesses !! Do not live with this situation --bring it to a point of resolution immediately.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="island1fox, post: 680421, member: 4816"] :sad-little:Falsifying time on diad or anywhere else is dishonest and both hourly and management should understand this and pay the penalty for violation. I was both hourly and management in my career. Take a step back on this discussion for just a moment. If you are in a building where the preload is always wrapped and the air is on time and the car doors are "closed" --Management has the right to inform you that the AM time --pcm plus full pre-trip should be no more than ten minutes. With bubblehead's remarks --I disagree --this is not a game --if mgmt instructs you to attend the pcm, pretrip, check your first stop and leave --then you do that. If it is necessary to "sort" your load everyday --you would have to do it "on road" --As a driver you should not have to live with a poor load or dirty windshields --but if I was still in Management --I would honestly work with the people causing bubbleheads problems --and after his problems were resolved --would expect him along with the other drivers to make every honest attempt to be out of the building in ten .Also I do not want drivers to work "off" the clock. As Danny and others have stated --do not falsify your diad ---push comes to shove --both you and the management person could be liable for discharge. If some idiot management person is insisting you do this --as danny said -get it in writing --or have the union involved immediately --if not --other hourly witnesses !! Do not live with this situation --bring it to a point of resolution immediately.:peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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