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<blockquote data-quote="Ricochet1a" data-source="post: 949023" data-attributes="member: 22880"><p>Well, it may be unsettling, but at least he was honest enough to tell you the truth. When I was in Express, I had a senior that was the same way - he didn't spit out the corporate talking points to the wage employees and gave honest answers to hard questions. I appreciated that in him and respected him for the respect he showed to me in not trying to pass off a corporate talking point and insult my intelligence in the process of doing so. Personal level respect is a two way street. </p><p></p><p>Many of the management types in Express are what I'd describe as either pathological liars or just to plain too stupid to recognize the talking points they are given are a load of horse crap. Many know the talking points are crap, but since they've made the decision to make Express a career, they know they'd better tow the line and dispense purple KoolAid whenever questions are asked. </p><p></p><p>He was absolutely correct in that the Express wage employees are the most costly to FedEx within the whole corporation. In their view, Express employees are compensated TOO MUCH right now. They see the problem as being one of perception among the Express employees - they need to be "educated" about how "tough" things are in the business world and accept what FedEx gives them - the "be thankful you have a job" line that is a standard Express talking point. </p><p></p><p>There is absolutely no guarantee that you will receive the same pay raise next year, a lower pay raise or nothing at all. You have no employment contract, there is no longer a stated Express pay progression scale - it is whatever Express decides they have to give out to maintain the highest level of turnover that is acceptable to them. </p><p></p><p>The bottom of scale didn't move up since they are literally flooded with applicants for openings right now. It used to be that in most cases, open positions that were filled with applicants off the street that had (after all the background screeening, residency requirments, drug screeenings) maybe 2, sometimes 3 applicants for managers to choose from. Now, they are swamped with people applying. People that have been subjected to a lay off from a white collar job are applying for Express wage positions. Most managers were "delighted" to have such a qualified applicant pool, till they discovered that these applicants in many cases couldn't handle the physical aspects of the job or started asking for time off here and there like they could in the old career. Still, there are lines of people for every Express opening, so that means there is absolutely no pressure on Express to move wages and compensation up. To the contrary, you've been experiencing a steady decline in compensation since 2008 when the DBPP was gutted. Yet Express comes up with the talking point of "we're working on the problem...". Yeah, they're working on it alright. </p><p></p><p>He was right on the mark when he stated that "Ground is the future". Not a single Express executive type will admit that to wage employees, but they all know that is the goal. Intellectual dishonesty or just plain lying... you decide. </p><p></p><p>For perspective, look at how the airlines implemented the code share carriers back about 20 years ago. They developed these regional airlines, that looked just like the legacy carriers (same aircraft livery, virtually identical aircrew uniforms, allowed passengers seamless travel between the mainline routes and the regional feeder routes, and gave passengers the mistaken impression that they were flying the "major" airline). However, this arrangement offered the major carriers one very important advantage - the employees of these regional carriers WEREN'T employees of the major airline. The employees operating the regional aircraft were employeed by a small independent air provider, who were contract operations that are paid to provide personnel to fly the smaller aircraft into smaller airports at a fraction of the labor costs the majors would incur if they had their employees provide the service. </p><p></p><p>I think you can see the parallels between how the regional air carriers operate and how FedEx has made Ground operate. There is NO coincidence there. </p><p></p><p>And people still have doubts that FedEx (Express in particular) wants to further outsource particular aspects of its overall business model.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ricochet1a, post: 949023, member: 22880"] Well, it may be unsettling, but at least he was honest enough to tell you the truth. When I was in Express, I had a senior that was the same way - he didn't spit out the corporate talking points to the wage employees and gave honest answers to hard questions. I appreciated that in him and respected him for the respect he showed to me in not trying to pass off a corporate talking point and insult my intelligence in the process of doing so. Personal level respect is a two way street. Many of the management types in Express are what I'd describe as either pathological liars or just to plain too stupid to recognize the talking points they are given are a load of horse crap. Many know the talking points are crap, but since they've made the decision to make Express a career, they know they'd better tow the line and dispense purple KoolAid whenever questions are asked. He was absolutely correct in that the Express wage employees are the most costly to FedEx within the whole corporation. In their view, Express employees are compensated TOO MUCH right now. They see the problem as being one of perception among the Express employees - they need to be "educated" about how "tough" things are in the business world and accept what FedEx gives them - the "be thankful you have a job" line that is a standard Express talking point. There is absolutely no guarantee that you will receive the same pay raise next year, a lower pay raise or nothing at all. You have no employment contract, there is no longer a stated Express pay progression scale - it is whatever Express decides they have to give out to maintain the highest level of turnover that is acceptable to them. The bottom of scale didn't move up since they are literally flooded with applicants for openings right now. It used to be that in most cases, open positions that were filled with applicants off the street that had (after all the background screeening, residency requirments, drug screeenings) maybe 2, sometimes 3 applicants for managers to choose from. Now, they are swamped with people applying. People that have been subjected to a lay off from a white collar job are applying for Express wage positions. Most managers were "delighted" to have such a qualified applicant pool, till they discovered that these applicants in many cases couldn't handle the physical aspects of the job or started asking for time off here and there like they could in the old career. Still, there are lines of people for every Express opening, so that means there is absolutely no pressure on Express to move wages and compensation up. To the contrary, you've been experiencing a steady decline in compensation since 2008 when the DBPP was gutted. Yet Express comes up with the talking point of "we're working on the problem...". Yeah, they're working on it alright. He was right on the mark when he stated that "Ground is the future". Not a single Express executive type will admit that to wage employees, but they all know that is the goal. Intellectual dishonesty or just plain lying... you decide. For perspective, look at how the airlines implemented the code share carriers back about 20 years ago. They developed these regional airlines, that looked just like the legacy carriers (same aircraft livery, virtually identical aircrew uniforms, allowed passengers seamless travel between the mainline routes and the regional feeder routes, and gave passengers the mistaken impression that they were flying the "major" airline). However, this arrangement offered the major carriers one very important advantage - the employees of these regional carriers WEREN'T employees of the major airline. The employees operating the regional aircraft were employeed by a small independent air provider, who were contract operations that are paid to provide personnel to fly the smaller aircraft into smaller airports at a fraction of the labor costs the majors would incur if they had their employees provide the service. I think you can see the parallels between how the regional air carriers operate and how FedEx has made Ground operate. There is NO coincidence there. And people still have doubts that FedEx (Express in particular) wants to further outsource particular aspects of its overall business model. [/QUOTE]
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