3rd Vote

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by sick_and_tired, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. sick_and_tired

    sick_and_tired New Member

    so whats going to happen after this 3rd vote. i am hearing different things.

    1. strike vote is next. and looks like they will vote for a strike.
    2. no strike. i hear that hoffa and hall will only have Ohio and Pennsylvania strike and not the rest of us.

    isnt the third vote supposed to be a strike vote? can hoffa and hall tell only those two states to strike while the rest of the country works? what message does that send to ups if only those locals strike while the rest of us keep working? the union will fall apart, thats why we have a "union" to be united.

    what are we all going to do.

    if we do strike will the master get rewritten? thats what i really want anyway. my local passed the second vote. that makes me sick. all that i hear is that everyone wants their back pay. for some of them its just going to be a few dollars. to me its not worth it, all of the stuff that we are giving up only for a few pennies for a back pay check. in my opinion we lost a lot in medical and pension, i could care less about the raise. in this time and economy our benefits out weight the pay. especially since there is talk about the minimum wage increasing to $10 an hour. i think that we all work way harder then 3 times the minimum wage.

    just my thoughts. please leave your read back and opinions positive or negative. i think that we all desirve more then what we are offered and getting. ups and the union leaders are all making too much out of this contract.

    -just a tired and grumpy driver.
     
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  2. I guarentee we don't go on strike. If this on doesn't pass they'll devote it. The cost of sending these ballots out is a lot. A lot of wasted money by members that can't let go. I appreciate there tenaciousness but the healthcare isn't changing.
     
  3. I fixed my spelling. Sorry
     
  4. rod

    rod retired and happy

    And you know this because......?
     
  5. PiedmontSteward

    PiedmontSteward RTW-4-Less

    The "strike vote" is a strike authorization vote only. It simply gives the National Negotiating Committee the option to strike.

    Per the IBT Constitution, if a strike authorization vote fails and a supplement vote also fails the supplemental agreement can then be imposed. Quite frankly, I don't think many people know what will happen if a strike authorization is approved and the supplement also shot down. The rumor is that if any strike action takes place, picket lines won't be sanctioned beyond the affected areas. That's probably one of the big reasons why we haven't heard of a second vote out of Local 89 -- the company can move/divert work around Ohio and Pennsylvania but shutting down Worldport would cripple UPS air operations.
     
  6. I just have a feeling. It's not 1997 anymore. This rebublican/anti union country we live in will kill us in the press if we do. The powers that be won't let it happen.
     
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  7. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny


    That's where I disagree. Country is not republican. All major cities are Democratic. That is the reason the same morons are elected. Time and time again. The non working work force -works real hard at not working. Also, all major courts are controlled by Democratic backed judges. This is why any repeal of the health care. Will fail. No matter who is president next. The reason why as a nation. We lost our morals. Without following a God. People have nothing to make them stop doing what they shouldn't. No guidelines. Conscience and consequences
     
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  8. BOXDONKEY

    BOXDONKEY New Member

    I'm with sick_and_tired 100%
     
  9. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    As for the union it has sold our souls. To the democrat party. It's all about money for a union to even exist. I vote for who I want. Not who the union tells me too. I have my own feelings and morals I follow. If I'm wrong. I have big shoulders. I can take it. And, admit I'm wrong. So far politically I'm not
     
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  10. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    I also believe all polical parties are corrupt. Even the tea party. No one should be allowed to serve any longer than 2 terms. Keep new ideas flowing. Not stale old politics. I will vote for any one that is NOT a democrat. If not they have to make an impression some how.
     
  11. snookbunny420

    snookbunny420 Member

    still voting no
     
  12. you aint even know it

    you aint even know it Well-Known Troll Troll

    You people who are voting no on your sup/rider because of the master need to get over yourselves. The master will never change, no matter what you do. I didn't like the master, but the majority of our union wanted it, so its what it is.
     
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  13. ezmoney5150

    ezmoney5150 Active Member

    Spoken like someone who spends his time on everything but politics. The repubs don't believe unions should exist and you vote for them. You sound like some Jewish folks that voted for Hitler. They said that antisemitism is just rhetoric. I'm pulling the lever for Hitler.

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  14. ezmoney5150

    ezmoney5150 Active Member

    Why?

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  15. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    Well the healthcare and article 17 are dead issues so who knows other than they can
     
  16. ezmoney5150

    ezmoney5150 Active Member

    Article 17 is in the central region, which has passed. Healthcare is covered in the National Master, which again has passed. So anyone voting no for those reasons. Is showing their ignorance.
     
  17. Stonefish

    Stonefish Well-Known Member

    I understand those things won't change but you asked I answered.
    I hope it passes this time.
     
  18. ezmoney5150

    ezmoney5150 Active Member

    Me too.
     
  19. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny


    Atheism the belief in nothing. Time well spent. You can vote for whom ever you want. Vote democrat you are a follower. Easier to let some one else do it. I could have thought of a more fitting analogy myself. I just don't exaggerate. Drama queen
     
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  20. QKRSTKR

    QKRSTKR Active Member

    And that's why Ohio rider being sent back out now and business agents unanimously supporting it. Get everything else passed then they'll take care of world port . We get screwed out of any improvements. Just vote yes they say. I can guarantee you the Louisville rider won't be sent back out without any changes.