6 to 1 outside hire question

Discussion in 'UPS Partners' started by zeromissed, Sep 11, 2013.

  1. zeromissed

    zeromissed New Member

    PT sup here, if Im interested in driving and we are due for an outside hire, can I apply? If so, if I don't make it do I go back to my old job?

  2. InsideUPS

    InsideUPS Active Member

    Zeromissed......I don't see why you could not be the outside hire.... and yes....I believe that you would simply go back to your original position if for some reason you would not qualify....

    Think positive..... let your manager know your interested... and go for it.

    Best of Luck.....
  3. _Mayday_

    _Mayday_ Yes Really

    Just had a pt sup go driving in my building and he was telling me if he didn't make it that was it, no going back to his old job like the teamsters get to do. Worth verifying with your HR person.
  4. zeromissed

    zeromissed New Member

    Thanks for the info. I'm going for it! Don't really have much to lose.
  5. cynic

    cynic New Member

    You're right, the PT sup job is one you (literally) could not pay me enough to do. Best wishes on a successful career change!
  6. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    I heard they reserve those 1 in 6 hires for PT sups that want to become ride along sups. I talked to one of the sups that was getting the 1 in 6, he said the center manager told him he would make his job hell if he took that 1 in 6 spot and then didnt take the ride-along position in 6 months when they offer it to him.
  7. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    They say you don't get your old pt sup job back. Because you are an "off the street hire." But if I seen at least 1 get their job back. You may also have to take a pay cut.
  8. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    What is a ride along supe? We call them On Car Supes, although they aren't on car that often.
  9. I like when they are on the car.........................that means im going to have an easy day!..they really dont want to see what you really have to do. they want to go to disney world...and live in fantasy land!
  10. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Sarcasm ?
  11. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Driver helper ?
  12. zeromissed

    zeromissed New Member

    I'm a PT sup so they can't cut my pay much more, lol
  13. zeromissed

    zeromissed New Member

    Found out today we are only at number 3, so it's going to be a while. Just have to suck it up a little longer I guess.
  14. BrownTie

    BrownTie Member

    Zeromissed: First of all, what are your intentions? Did you want to go full time to gain a little driving experience to become a Full Time Supervisor?. What is your goal?.. Be aware that during your 30 days, make sure your trainer reviews with you the expectations you must accomplish on a weekly bases. Have a shop steward available during the review. Follow the methods from safety to delivery. Good Luck.
  15. zeromissed

    zeromissed New Member

    I would rather go driving. I do think about FT on road sup. I don't know if I can make a commitment to move to another center at the drop of a hat though. I talk to my current on road sup daily about it. I guess I would just have to see how it went. I do miss the union I must say. I just feel as though I'm in a rut and I need to do something about it.
  16. 1989

    1989 Well-Known Member

    keep reminding them that you want to go driving. You don't want them to slip a transfer into that position.
  17. j13501

    j13501 Member

    Two comments:

    First, the rules about returning to your part time sup job if you fail to qualify are (like most things at UPS), different based on where in the country you are. There are many local contract agreements that have been established over the years regarding part time sups driving. Some parts of the country allow you to return to your sup job, others do not. Make sure as was mentioned before, that you check with H.R. for the rules in your building.

    Secondly, the key thing that you have to understand is that, your division manager certainly understands the value of that, one "off the street hire". I hope you are the best part-time supervisor in your building because your Management team will want to reward that "best" part-time supervisor with a full time job. It makes sense - recognizing a person for excellent results is not only fair, it's good motivation for all the part-time supervisors because they see that a person's hard work is rewarded. Good Luck.
  18. Mapp

    Mapp Choo Choo

    Hilarious. :happy-very:
  19. BrownTie

    BrownTie Member

    Actually j13501 is right. Your Full Time Sup must support you as well as your manager. It will be up to your DM if he would promote from the pt sup rank or off the street. I hope you have the support. Good Luck..
  20. whatwasithinking

    whatwasithinking New Member

    In my area I have seen a couple PT sups be allowed to drive during the free period/peak season (10-1 to 12-31) with the goal of them getting experience and then returning to their PT sup position until a full time sup opening. Typically they are the ones that have shown an interest in full time mgmt and ultimately they will become on road sups ( how many drivers do you see putting their letter in...that's right, none) so it is a way for them to gain a smidge bit of experience before going full time. I can say that in my district, we have been burned by a number of PT sups that became drivers and then are not very successful (productive, safe, positive, customer service, etc.) so I think a few have ruined it for most. There is not a chance in hell that our division manager would allow a PT sup to become a full time driver. That may be wrong, but with the lack of drivers that want to become sups, the PT sup (with a couple months driving experience) that wants to be a supervisor will be a better on-road sup than someone brought over from IE that has Zero driving experience. Just my opinion...could be way off base, you tell me.