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<blockquote data-quote="Floridacargocat" data-source="post: 805274" data-attributes="member: 6168"><p>63 mpg or 3.7l/100 km (for standardized conditions) are not that much out of the world. VW once presented a Golf TDI Hybrid with IIRC 61 mpg. It was not launched as it was considered to be too expensive to manufacture. Mercedes 200 CDI with all fuel economy devices (start-stop, brake-energy recovery and others) is at 57 mpg, BMW is presenting a new car with a slightly better performance. Audi A4 is in the same league. Unfortunately not made for the USA.</p><p>Whenever I had a diesel rental in Europe, there was absolutely no problem of accelerating and/or maintaining the high speeds of the autobahns. Only during starting the diesel engine, you MIGHT notice a minor difference, but otherwise you will not.</p><p>What needs to be taken into account is a different mentality of the American consumer and of course the legal situation in the USA regarding possible class action cases (this mentality as such does not exist in Europe).</p><p>Another key aspect is that diesel-powered cars in Europe are higher priced than gasoline-powered cars (about EUR 2000 plus for a compact car - Golf size). For competitive reasons, Japanese cars are also available with a diesel option. Even luxury cars like BMW and Mercedes-Benz are available with diesel engines. What is undeniable is that thermal eficiency of diesel engines are significantly higher than gasoline engines. Combined with progress in engine development, software and fuel-economizing devices, it is only a normal engineering progression that is made in old Europe (btw, VW has presented a 2-seater with 1 l/100 km consumption = 235 mpg as a demonstrator and presented it recently in the Arabian Gulf area. This car is road-worthy).</p><p>In the end, it is not only a game of who/which car consumes least fuel, but is a game of utilization of overall resources and emissions over the lifetime of a vehicle; and this aspect is something that I am not able to see in ANY of the car reviews published in the USA. </p><p>The good thing is that Robert Lutz of GM used a concept in car development which consisted of taking the best engineers PLUS the best journalists in the trade for car reviews to improve GM car development. He was on the right track.</p><p>What does all this mean for UPS?</p><p>Please have a look at all the smoke-belching package cars when they start up before going on the delivery run. Please have a look at their mpg and compare this to data (internally available from our European counterparts). We have to utilize our resources in a much smarter way than we do today.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Floridacargocat, post: 805274, member: 6168"] 63 mpg or 3.7l/100 km (for standardized conditions) are not that much out of the world. VW once presented a Golf TDI Hybrid with IIRC 61 mpg. It was not launched as it was considered to be too expensive to manufacture. Mercedes 200 CDI with all fuel economy devices (start-stop, brake-energy recovery and others) is at 57 mpg, BMW is presenting a new car with a slightly better performance. Audi A4 is in the same league. Unfortunately not made for the USA. Whenever I had a diesel rental in Europe, there was absolutely no problem of accelerating and/or maintaining the high speeds of the autobahns. Only during starting the diesel engine, you MIGHT notice a minor difference, but otherwise you will not. What needs to be taken into account is a different mentality of the American consumer and of course the legal situation in the USA regarding possible class action cases (this mentality as such does not exist in Europe). Another key aspect is that diesel-powered cars in Europe are higher priced than gasoline-powered cars (about EUR 2000 plus for a compact car - Golf size). For competitive reasons, Japanese cars are also available with a diesel option. Even luxury cars like BMW and Mercedes-Benz are available with diesel engines. What is undeniable is that thermal eficiency of diesel engines are significantly higher than gasoline engines. Combined with progress in engine development, software and fuel-economizing devices, it is only a normal engineering progression that is made in old Europe (btw, VW has presented a 2-seater with 1 l/100 km consumption = 235 mpg as a demonstrator and presented it recently in the Arabian Gulf area. This car is road-worthy). In the end, it is not only a game of who/which car consumes least fuel, but is a game of utilization of overall resources and emissions over the lifetime of a vehicle; and this aspect is something that I am not able to see in ANY of the car reviews published in the USA. The good thing is that Robert Lutz of GM used a concept in car development which consisted of taking the best engineers PLUS the best journalists in the trade for car reviews to improve GM car development. He was on the right track. What does all this mean for UPS? Please have a look at all the smoke-belching package cars when they start up before going on the delivery run. Please have a look at their mpg and compare this to data (internally available from our European counterparts). We have to utilize our resources in a much smarter way than we do today. [/QUOTE]
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