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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 871367" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Good questions.</p><p></p><p>First, we have to go back to 1994 under the Clinton Administration. Paul Wolfowitz and Bill Kristol approached and discussed with President Clinton, the pursuing of military action against Sadaam hussein. Clinton rejected the request (short version) and the republicans who were pushing for war were disappointed.</p><p></p><p>Afterwards, a new right wing think tank called "The Project for the New American Century" was born. [media=wikipedia]Project_for_the_New_American_Century[/media]</p><p></p><p>"On January 16, 1998, following perceived Iraqi unwillingness to co-operate with UN weapons inspections, members of the PNAC, including Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and Robert Zoellick drafted an open letter to President Bill Clinton, posted on its website, urging President Clinton to remove Saddam Hussein from power using U.S. diplomatic, political, and military power. The signers argue that Saddam would pose a threat to the United States, its Middle East allies, and oil resources in the region, if he succeeded in maintaining what they asserted was a stockpile of Weapons of Mass Destruction. They also state: "we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections" and "American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council." They argue that an Iraq war would be justified by Hussein's defiance of UN "containment" policy and his persistent threat to U.S. interests.[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[10]</span>[/SUP]""</p><p></p><p>PNAC, wanted a war with IRAQ for years before Bush was elected. The record is clear. Unfortunately, Clinton did not agree. PNAC then went on to write its own manifesto, where its goal was to establish America as the last superpower in the world. Military might, and military dominance in the world was the goal of PNAC. PNAC believed that "NATION BUILDING" was in order, and using our military, we could establish a world democracy through military might.</p><p></p><p>The members involved in PNAC had significant positions within the bush administration, including, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Scooter Libby, and the following list:</p><p>Elliott Abrams[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Gary Bauer[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>William J. Bennett[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>John Ellis "Jeb" Bush[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Richard B. Cheney[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Eliot A. Cohen[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Midge Decter[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Paula Dobriansky[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Steve Forbes[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Aaron Friedberg[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Francis Fukuyama[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Frank Gaffney[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span>[/SUP]</p><p>Fred C. Ikle[SUP]<span style="font-size: 10px">[5]</span></p><p></p><p>Donal<span style="font-size: 12px">d Kagan[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Zalmay Khalilzad[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Norman Podhoretz[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">J. Danforth Quayle[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Peter W. Rodman[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Stephen P. Rosen[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Henry S. Rowen[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Donald Rumsfeld[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Vin Weber[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">George Weigel[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px">Paul Wolfowitz[SUP][5][/SUP]</span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Now, if you consider that the planning for war takes alot of time, and that PNAC was writing its manifesto about World Dominance, Regime Changes and changing the mindsets of the American public going back to 1992, its clear to see how this planning took shape after Bush was elected.</span>[/SUP]</p><p>In 1997, everyone on the list played A MAJOR ROLE in the IRAQ war, including Zalmay Khalizad who became the ambassador to Afghanistan and then ambassador to Iraq once they got started.</p><p></p><p>Ok, once the plan was in action, PNAC had to sell the idea to BUSH and his administration, but BUSH's administration was already planned out for him. Everyone sitting in the board room of PNAC discussing war with IRAQ and Afghanistan was going to be a player in each war.</p><p></p><p>Thats the behind the scenes (short version of the story).</p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Bill Kristol wrote two very important things in 1997 that haunt america today. First, he wrote (and everyone on the list was signatory to it) the following:</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">"Section V of <em>Rebuilding America's Defenses</em>, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor"</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Kristol also wrote that "the changing of the american mindset for war could only be accomplished by an event that would eclipse pearl harbor".</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Now, keep this in perspective, "changing the mindset of the american mindset for war"....how were they going to do that? Thats the easy part.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">All they had to do was "create" an event that would eclipse pearl harbor. 911 clearly eclipsed pearl harbor. I dont think anyone can disagree.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Afterwards, 98% of americans backed military action in the middle east. BUSH could have attacked every country in the middle east in 2002 and the american public would have approved of it. (mindset)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #006600">A neo-conservative Washington-based organization known as the Project for the New American Century (PNAC<span style="color: #CC0000"><span style="color: #006600">),</span> funded by three foundations closely tied to Persian Gulf oil, and weapons and defense industries,</span> drafted the war plan for U.S. global domination through military power.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">One of the organization’s documents clearly shows that <span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #006600"><strong>Bush and his most senior cabinet members had already planned an attack on Iraq before he took power in January 2001.</strong></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #006600"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">The PNAC was founded in the spring of 1997 by the well-known Zionist neo-conservatives Robert Kagan and William Kristol of The Weekly Standard.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">How were they going to convince us all that war was the answer? They used their connections in the middle east to recruit, train, fund and supply the hijackers along with help from terror groups who were friendly with these men. Usama Bin Laden was a friend of the republicans, Reagan, Cheney, Rumsfeld and BUSH 1.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Together, they convince 19 islamists to hijack planes and fly them into the towers, little did they know , that a bigger plan was in store and they had "NO PART" in that aspect of the operation.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 871367, member: 17969"] Good questions. First, we have to go back to 1994 under the Clinton Administration. Paul Wolfowitz and Bill Kristol approached and discussed with President Clinton, the pursuing of military action against Sadaam hussein. Clinton rejected the request (short version) and the republicans who were pushing for war were disappointed. Afterwards, a new right wing think tank called "The Project for the New American Century" was born. [media=wikipedia]Project_for_the_New_American_Century[/media] "On January 16, 1998, following perceived Iraqi unwillingness to co-operate with UN weapons inspections, members of the PNAC, including Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, and Robert Zoellick drafted an open letter to President Bill Clinton, posted on its website, urging President Clinton to remove Saddam Hussein from power using U.S. diplomatic, political, and military power. The signers argue that Saddam would pose a threat to the United States, its Middle East allies, and oil resources in the region, if he succeeded in maintaining what they asserted was a stockpile of Weapons of Mass Destruction. They also state: "we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections" and "American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council." They argue that an Iraq war would be justified by Hussein's defiance of UN "containment" policy and his persistent threat to U.S. interests.[SUP][SIZE=2][10][/SIZE][/SUP]"" PNAC, wanted a war with IRAQ for years before Bush was elected. The record is clear. Unfortunately, Clinton did not agree. PNAC then went on to write its own manifesto, where its goal was to establish America as the last superpower in the world. Military might, and military dominance in the world was the goal of PNAC. PNAC believed that "NATION BUILDING" was in order, and using our military, we could establish a world democracy through military might. The members involved in PNAC had significant positions within the bush administration, including, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Scooter Libby, and the following list: Elliott Abrams[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Gary Bauer[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] William J. Bennett[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] John Ellis "Jeb" Bush[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Richard B. Cheney[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Eliot A. Cohen[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Midge Decter[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Paula Dobriansky[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Steve Forbes[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Aaron Friedberg[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Francis Fukuyama[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Frank Gaffney[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE][/SUP] Fred C. Ikle[SUP][SIZE=2][5][/SIZE] Donal[SIZE=3]d Kagan[SUP][5][/SUP] Zalmay Khalilzad[SUP][5][/SUP] I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby[SUP][5][/SUP] Norman Podhoretz[SUP][5][/SUP] J. Danforth Quayle[SUP][5][/SUP] Peter W. Rodman[SUP][5][/SUP] Stephen P. Rosen[SUP][5][/SUP] Henry S. Rowen[SUP][5][/SUP] Donald Rumsfeld[SUP][5][/SUP] Vin Weber[SUP][5][/SUP] George Weigel[SUP][5][/SUP] Paul Wolfowitz[SUP][5][/SUP][/SIZE] [SIZE=4]Now, if you consider that the planning for war takes alot of time, and that PNAC was writing its manifesto about World Dominance, Regime Changes and changing the mindsets of the American public going back to 1992, its clear to see how this planning took shape after Bush was elected.[/SIZE][/SUP] In 1997, everyone on the list played A MAJOR ROLE in the IRAQ war, including Zalmay Khalizad who became the ambassador to Afghanistan and then ambassador to Iraq once they got started. Ok, once the plan was in action, PNAC had to sell the idea to BUSH and his administration, but BUSH's administration was already planned out for him. Everyone sitting in the board room of PNAC discussing war with IRAQ and Afghanistan was going to be a player in each war. Thats the behind the scenes (short version of the story). [SIZE=4]Bill Kristol wrote two very important things in 1997 that haunt america today. First, he wrote (and everyone on the list was signatory to it) the following: "Section V of [I]Rebuilding America's Defenses[/I], entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" Kristol also wrote that "the changing of the american mindset for war could only be accomplished by an event that would eclipse pearl harbor". Now, keep this in perspective, "changing the mindset of the american mindset for war"....how were they going to do that? Thats the easy part. All they had to do was "create" an event that would eclipse pearl harbor. 911 clearly eclipsed pearl harbor. I dont think anyone can disagree. Afterwards, 98% of americans backed military action in the middle east. BUSH could have attacked every country in the middle east in 2002 and the american public would have approved of it. (mindset) [SIZE=5][COLOR=#006600]A neo-conservative Washington-based organization known as the Project for the New American Century (PNAC[COLOR=#CC0000][COLOR=#006600]),[/COLOR] funded by three foundations closely tied to Persian Gulf oil, and weapons and defense industries,[/COLOR] drafted the war plan for U.S. global domination through military power.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][SIZE=5][/SIZE][/SIZE] [SIZE=4]One of the organization’s documents clearly shows that [SIZE=4][COLOR=#006600][B]Bush and his most senior cabinet members had already planned an attack on Iraq before he took power in January 2001.[/B] [B][/B][/COLOR][/SIZE] The PNAC was founded in the spring of 1997 by the well-known Zionist neo-conservatives Robert Kagan and William Kristol of The Weekly Standard. How were they going to convince us all that war was the answer? They used their connections in the middle east to recruit, train, fund and supply the hijackers along with help from terror groups who were friendly with these men. Usama Bin Laden was a friend of the republicans, Reagan, Cheney, Rumsfeld and BUSH 1. Together, they convince 19 islamists to hijack planes and fly them into the towers, little did they know , that a bigger plan was in store and they had "NO PART" in that aspect of the operation. [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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