9.5
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Bubblehead
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ARTICLE 12-HOURS OF WORK
Section 4
A full-time seniority employee’s uniform starting time must be scheduled and posted by the end of the shift of their last schedule work day of the preceding workweek for the following workweek. In areas where the Union and the Employer agree, the start time shall be uniform except where the Employer is able to schedule an earlier start time for the package driver employees on Mondays or days after holidays, when merchandise is available for dispatch. If the Employer switches an employee’s workweek from Monday through Friday, to Tuesday through Saturday, he/she shall be allowed to exercise his/her seniority.
I'm saying that it's likely this driver got a call in the morning "asking" them to please come in early and they obliged.
They can "order" or try to "force" me in early to work the preload, and I can guarantee you in either case, that they can pound salt.
We are talking about this individuals ability to file for 9.5.
Just based on his driving or delivery hours, he can.
Bubblehead
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You can file on anything, now prevailing, that's another story.
First step in the grievance procedure is discussing it with management, and if you're volunteering for extra work, the company will balk at adding you to the 9.5 list.
9:20 to 20:38? How much is that?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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9.5 would be either 19:35 or 19:50, depending on how long you have to take for lunch.
Volunteering to work the preload negates the 9.5 grievance.
It does not negate the grievance. They may try to day his preloading time doesn't count but he definitely was behind the wheel for over 9.5.
Oh yeah? Can you show me where it says that cuz it seems to me this person drove from 9:20 to 8:38.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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9.5 grievances are based on NOT wanting excessive OT.
Volunteering to work the preload tells me that he WANTS OT!
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
So you do then a favor and them gives them a free pass to screw your eyeballs out?
I don't think so.
By The Book
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But he still has 3 days on road over 9.5. Like @BigUnionGuy said the company worked him 3 days over 9.5. I know what your saying about the company not wanting people on the list but they will lose this one. He's only getting on the list, and will probably have to file to do that. We also had some guys who had earlier start times and wanted to file for money and I told them it's only going to be your on road time that counts. In giving the company a chance to reduce these drivers' hours I told them they could take away your early work as a way to make sure you were under 9.5.
That's why I quit doing early am's
.take your overtime and shove it.
And they still ask me...lol
Did he volunteer? Was he ordered?
He drove 10.28 hours. Qualified!
Bubblehead
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Did he/she take lunch?
Doesn't matter. If he didn't, he worked 11.28
I'm starting to understand the problem with some guys that are "concession" crazy. It's just a simple issue of lack of understanding to the language. And if your causing an impedance in the progress of our contract, than your just as guilty as the company's rape of its people.
Bubblehead
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I never had a "little brother" as a kid.
hyena
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Preload time won't count. 9.5 language is for pkg car driver work Only.
Brownslave688
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Or Hazmat training. Same with 8 hour requests. Had them both happen to me on training days.
hyena
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Right, the only classification that's covered by the 8 HR or 9.5 language is package car
