Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
A Call to Arms
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="dilligaf" data-source="post: 313443" data-attributes="member: 11476"><p>Tie you are way out of line on this and need step down off your white stallion you are riding. You want to talk about "speaking the truth" then why don't you do it. Why don't you admit that the company violates our contract every single day, in some way or another. My stewards, nor Griff, nor the majority of any other Teamster stewards have to trump up charges to file grievances on. Every one of us (Teamsters) know that every day we come to work we won't have to wait long for the violations start. The company does it to themselves. We don't make them violate us. I for one, and I'm positive that everyone of us would agree, that we all would be quite happy to not be violated. And I for one would be happy to have Griff as my steward. He obviously is very passionate about protecting those rights that you seem to think I don't deserve. You want to talk about a Call To Arms to bring in more business. WHY would I want to bring in more business when the company 1. Does not appreciate (they just demand more), 2. Does nothing to improve my working conditions when when we need more routes because our(at my center) volume has tripled in the last 10 years but the the number of drivers has stayed the same. You want to point the finger you need to remember that there are 3 fingers pointing back at yourself. I wish my steward was half as diligent as Griff seems to be at protecting members rights. We are contracted labor. That IS different than being an employee of UPS. It may be a miniscule difference to you but it is a difference and that difference is the word "CONTRACT". This contract should make our (yours and mine) work relationship a symbiotic one. However it is not! Our work relationship seems to have morphed onto a parasitc relationship. How much more are you going to try and bleed off of me? And yes, I believe it is because the Teamsters as a whole no longer have the respect that they used to have. I believe, and I think Griff has tried to make this point also, that the upper levels of the Teamsters and UPS mgt have forgotten that it is the customers (Griff, I am adding this to make a point) and the blue collar laborers that make this company work. Without us you don't have a job and without the customers NONE of us would have a job. You want respect then you need to give respect. (the same is true in the opposite direction, too) The fact is UPS violates us every day. So you speak the truth, you admit this to be true. And furthermore how dare you tell Cheryl "This contract is really just a tool to try to be disruptive". This has nothing to do with being "disruptive" or "hating the man", this has EVERYTHING to do with what's right and wrong. So again Tie get off your high horse. And maybe your should master the concept of humility.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dilligaf, post: 313443, member: 11476"] Tie you are way out of line on this and need step down off your white stallion you are riding. You want to talk about "speaking the truth" then why don't you do it. Why don't you admit that the company violates our contract every single day, in some way or another. My stewards, nor Griff, nor the majority of any other Teamster stewards have to trump up charges to file grievances on. Every one of us (Teamsters) know that every day we come to work we won't have to wait long for the violations start. The company does it to themselves. We don't make them violate us. I for one, and I'm positive that everyone of us would agree, that we all would be quite happy to not be violated. And I for one would be happy to have Griff as my steward. He obviously is very passionate about protecting those rights that you seem to think I don't deserve. You want to talk about a Call To Arms to bring in more business. WHY would I want to bring in more business when the company 1. Does not appreciate (they just demand more), 2. Does nothing to improve my working conditions when when we need more routes because our(at my center) volume has tripled in the last 10 years but the the number of drivers has stayed the same. You want to point the finger you need to remember that there are 3 fingers pointing back at yourself. I wish my steward was half as diligent as Griff seems to be at protecting members rights. We are contracted labor. That IS different than being an employee of UPS. It may be a miniscule difference to you but it is a difference and that difference is the word "CONTRACT". This contract should make our (yours and mine) work relationship a symbiotic one. However it is not! Our work relationship seems to have morphed onto a parasitc relationship. How much more are you going to try and bleed off of me? And yes, I believe it is because the Teamsters as a whole no longer have the respect that they used to have. I believe, and I think Griff has tried to make this point also, that the upper levels of the Teamsters and UPS mgt have forgotten that it is the customers (Griff, I am adding this to make a point) and the blue collar laborers that make this company work. Without us you don't have a job and without the customers NONE of us would have a job. You want respect then you need to give respect. (the same is true in the opposite direction, too) The fact is UPS violates us every day. So you speak the truth, you admit this to be true. And furthermore how dare you tell Cheryl "This contract is really just a tool to try to be disruptive". This has nothing to do with being "disruptive" or "hating the man", this has EVERYTHING to do with what's right and wrong. So again Tie get off your high horse. And maybe your should master the concept of humility. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
Brown Cafe UPS Forum
UPS Union Issues
A Call to Arms
Top