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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 952969" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Agree with Dave, good link 804. It's another reason why I post links challenging the idea of the industrial food system in this country and the State acting as it's Pinkerton agency in quashing small scale farming alternatives. Even now the Federal gov't <a href="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread724554/pg1" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">literally owns the word organic</span></a> and regardless of how you grew your food you can not use the word organic unless you get permission (certification) from the USDA to do so. We raise a lot of our own food from not only outdoor gardens but I've now built some hydroponic systems growing food year round and even when people see firsthand how I grow vegetables, they may call it organic but I correct them that it is not because the USDA has now defined what organic is and then they must certify that as true. I've not done that and have no plans too. <a href="http://www.cornucopia.org/who-owns-organic/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">Now who would push for something like this?</span></a> </p><p></p><p>The same forces as seen in Ireland are now at hand in the US with our own industrial food industry. The collapse of the family farm as we knew them in the 70's and 80's, was it purely a market action of where businessmen farmers made bad choices or was that market manipulated from on high for other purposes? Look at the narrow distribution food chain in this country and where the limited choices of food purchase are almost exclusive to national brands or at least regional players embedded by a cartelized system created by the regulatory regime. And while you're thinking on the family farm destruction that fed the localized food market, why would smart mortgage people make lending policy in which they know so many loans are made that the lendee can't make those payments over time? Thus collapsing the entire industry? If you buy the greed excuse then shut up that the famine in Ireland was not caused by the potato blight. Greed is but yet a symtom, Power and control is the root cause!</p><p></p><p>Speaking of the legacy of Ireland and unspoken history, <a href="http://mises.org/journals/lf/1971/1971_04.pdf" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">a nearly 1000 year history of Ireland</span></a> (starting at page 3) is never taught but yet knowledge of would allow an important teaching moment for the history and people of Ireland to teach the rest of us a wonderful lesson in which we could gleen much from. But then that history opens up the door to a new form of thinking that those who really caused the famine in Ireland to begin with does not want told. They are also the one's who suppressed that history to begin with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 952969, member: 2189"] Agree with Dave, good link 804. It's another reason why I post links challenging the idea of the industrial food system in this country and the State acting as it's Pinkerton agency in quashing small scale farming alternatives. Even now the Federal gov't [URL="http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread724554/pg1"][COLOR=#ff0000]literally owns the word organic[/COLOR][/URL] and regardless of how you grew your food you can not use the word organic unless you get permission (certification) from the USDA to do so. We raise a lot of our own food from not only outdoor gardens but I've now built some hydroponic systems growing food year round and even when people see firsthand how I grow vegetables, they may call it organic but I correct them that it is not because the USDA has now defined what organic is and then they must certify that as true. I've not done that and have no plans too. [URL="http://www.cornucopia.org/who-owns-organic/"][COLOR=#ff0000]Now who would push for something like this?[/COLOR][/URL] The same forces as seen in Ireland are now at hand in the US with our own industrial food industry. The collapse of the family farm as we knew them in the 70's and 80's, was it purely a market action of where businessmen farmers made bad choices or was that market manipulated from on high for other purposes? Look at the narrow distribution food chain in this country and where the limited choices of food purchase are almost exclusive to national brands or at least regional players embedded by a cartelized system created by the regulatory regime. And while you're thinking on the family farm destruction that fed the localized food market, why would smart mortgage people make lending policy in which they know so many loans are made that the lendee can't make those payments over time? Thus collapsing the entire industry? If you buy the greed excuse then shut up that the famine in Ireland was not caused by the potato blight. Greed is but yet a symtom, Power and control is the root cause! Speaking of the legacy of Ireland and unspoken history, [URL="http://mises.org/journals/lf/1971/1971_04.pdf"][COLOR=#ff0000]a nearly 1000 year history of Ireland[/COLOR][/URL] (starting at page 3) is never taught but yet knowledge of would allow an important teaching moment for the history and people of Ireland to teach the rest of us a wonderful lesson in which we could gleen much from. But then that history opens up the door to a new form of thinking that those who really caused the famine in Ireland to begin with does not want told. They are also the one's who suppressed that history to begin with. [/QUOTE]
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