A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people --

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  1. Manchester, Connecticut (CNN) -- Omar Thornton, 34, walked into a room early Tuesday at the beverage distributorship where he worked in Manchester, Connecticut.
    Company and union officials played a video. He calmly watched images that purportedly showed him stealing from a truck.
    An employee of Hartford Distributors for two years and a driver for one, Thornton was given a choice of resigning or being fired, union and company officials said.
    He signed a resignation paper, was escorted out of the room and toward the door. He asked for a drink of water, company CEO Ross Hollander told CNN. That's when all hell broke loose. Thornton pulled out a handgun and began firing, officials said.
    Within minutes, the gunman and eight other people were dead, and two others were wounded, according to Manchester police and a union official. Police swarmed to the scene, but never had a chance to talk with Thornton, who apparently shot himself to death in an office.
    The shootings left the company, city and state in shock. Relatives and acquaintances said Thornton was known for his steady demeanor.
    "My heart and prayers go out to the employees and families of the victims," Gov. M. Jodi Rell said in a statement. "In the wake of this tragedy, we are all left asking the same questions: How could someone do this? Why did they do this? It was a senseless act of violence that has left us all shaken. ..."
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    As police investigate the shootings and prepare to identify its victims, the company will meet with employees, some of whom have been with Hartford for 30-40 years.
    A girlfriend of Thornton indicated he was a victim of racial harassment at the beverage center, the mother of the girlfriend told CNN.
    Thornton told his girlfriend he had reported to a company supervisor and a union representative about the harassment but they did nothing about it, Joanne Hannah said Tuesday.
    Teamsters officials deny allegations that Thornton, who was black, snapped because of racial harassment.
    Eight people were killed in various parts of the facility, Police Chief Marc Montminy said, and one shot may have been fired outside.
    "There were clearly some performance issues," Montminy said.
    Warehouse vice president Steve Hollander, who was grazed in the head and arm, said Thornton was "as cold as ice" when he fired, killing two people near Hollander.
    Hollander said he thinks Thornton had guns stashed in his lunch box.
    "He shot at me twice and hit me a couple times. By just the grace of God, I don't know how he missed me," Hollander told the AP after he was released from the hospital.
    Chris Roos, secretary and treasurer of Teamsters Local 1035, which represents the company's drivers, told CNN that Thornton had been accused of stealing "product" off a beer truck on two separate occasions.
    Roos said Steve Hollander provided details of the 7 a.m. meeting.
    "Omar asked if he could resign, and he signed a resignation paper. The meeting was over. They were walking out of the meeting, and that's when it all happened," Roos said.
    Bryan Cirigliano, 51, the shop steward for the union and the union's president, was in the meeting. He was among those killed, Roos said. Other victims were found throughout the facility, police said.
    "He was a great guy. Unbelievable family man, " Roos said of Cirigliano. "Very community-active. Loved his daughters, loved his wife."
    Joanne Hannah said Thornton showed her daughter, Kristie, a cell phone photo of racial epithets and a stick figure with a noose around its neck drawn on a restroom stall. He was in a stall once and heard a co-worker say "they wanted that n----- out of there," she said.
    She said Thornton was one of two black employees. "This poor guy got pushed to the limit."
    Kristie Hannah and Thornton spent Monday night in Enfield together, Joanne Hannah said. "She said he acted his normal self."
    Joanne Hannah said Thornton got a pistol permit about two years ago. She said she was unaware of the allegations of theft levied against Thornton, a truck driver, but she doubted he was guilty. "He was too honest."
    Roos said Thornton never filed a racial complaint with the union or a government agency.
    "This had nothing to do with racial stuff. This was a sick individual. He just snapped," Roos said.
    James Battaglio, a spokesman for the family that owns the distributorship, said he had no information about the allegations of harassment.
    Hannah and relatives of Thornton said the suspected gunman called his mother Tuesday morning and said he had shot five people.
    Thornton's uncle, Will Holliday, told CNN affiliate WFSB that in the call, the suspected shooter said, "'I killed the five racists that was there that was bothering me' and he said that's it, the cops are going to come in so I'm going to take care of myself."
    Police would not release identities of the dead late Tuesday. Montminy said he did not know how many were specifically targeted.
    Company receptionist Marissa Busiere told CNN affiliate WFSB she heard another co-worker screaming after shots rang out inside the business.
    "'He's shooting! He's shooting! Call 911.' And everyone started running out of the building," Busiere said.
    At the time, there were about 35 or 40 people in the office and warehouse, Brett Hollander, the director of marketing and a member of the family that owns the company, told the Hartford Courant.
    Three people were rushed to Hartford Hospital, and one of them later died, a doctor told reporters. Police declined to say how many people were wounded.
    "Everyone is devastated by this tragic and senseless act," Battaglio, the spokesman for the Hollander family, told the Courant. He said the family intends to focus its attention on the families of the victims.
    "[The family is] mourning. They're meeting tomorrow morning [Wednesday] with employees, away from the site," said Battaglio. "They want to meet in private, an opportunity for people to grieve and to come together and to address the remainder of their family members, meaning their employees."
    "This is a tight-knit organization. This is tragic, this is senseless. In addition, they lost people with whom they've been extremely close to over the decades," Battaglio told CNN.
    At least one nearby business was closed Tuesday afternoon.
    "Pray for the families of the people at Hartford Distributors," a recorded phone message at Fluid Dynamics said.
    Roos said employees are still reeling after the violence.
    "I'm devastated. I'm trying to think how I'm going to get nine families' lives back in order again and help them cope with this. How can we help them cope with this situation? We're going to try to get employee-assistance people and union therapists to help and speak with these guys," he said.
     
  2. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    Apparently, no one told the murderer that no guns were allowed in the workplace. The people he shot obeyed the rule, and paid for that obedience with their lives.

    I'd really like to see some truth in advertising. Instead of calling them "gun free zones", we need to be honest and call them what they really are...."helpless unarmed victim zones."

    Workplace violence is a helluva lot easier to get away with if you know that you will be the only one with a gun.
     
  3. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    +1
     
  4. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    I see you guys wanna go back to the wild west era.
    Everyone wearing a holster.
    Just look at somebody the wrong way, or tick a person off, and face the concequences.

    Whoever draws slower loses.

    No , thank-you.
    Not the way I want to live (or die) !
     
  5. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    It comes from my Boy Scout training from years ago ------its called 'Be Prepared"
     
  6. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    Hollander tells the AP that Thornton was caught on videotape stealing beer several times.
    He says Thornton did not contest it or get angry, and chose to quit rather than being fired.
    Then, he pulled out a gun, from his lunchbox, and started shooting.
    Hollander says Thornton was cool and calm the whole time.
    The Connecticut Commission on Human Rights and Opportunities said Hartford Distributors has never had any complaints filed against it.
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    So far only the race of the shooter is known.
     
  7. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    Actually klien, when people don't know just what weapon someone might be carrying, they tend to act quite pleasant towards each other.
    As explained on the show Wild West Tech.
     
  8. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    For me, that is just another example to take away guns from ordinary people.
    That guy probably never commited a crime in his life, he was a worker just like you.
    But, losing his job, not being able to pay his bills, etc... caused him to run amok. Happens over and over, again.

    Your solution is more guns to fight gun violence.
    Mine is to ban them, get them off the streets, off the hands of everyone, except police, and other security officials.
    Everybody could live much safer.
     
  9. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    When a guy is as UNSTABLE as that guy, he can bring a machete and hack 8 people to death.....the gun has nothing to do with it.
     
  10. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    keep drinking that liquor.
    That kind of thinking only increases the violence levels.
     
  11. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people


    never committed a crime in his life? Other than stealing beer on two separate occassions that were documented, you mean.

    If he was looking to shoot the person who caused him to lose his job, he didn't have to leave home.
     
  12. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    You can pretty much well defend yourself, or run away from a knife.
    He might kill one or 2.... but , gives the rest a chance to either run or tackle him.
    I'll take my chances with the machete.

    Speaking of that, lately I have been thinking on how North America woulld be, if the USA was north, Canada in the middle, and Mexico where it is.
    Well, there wouldn't be guns for drugs trade.
    Mexico has a tough gun law, too.
    Besides, Canada's smaller popualtion and less drug use would only add up to 2% of the american drug import, making it totally unattractive to trade , anyways.
    So, most drugs would stay in South America, and all guns would stay way up north.
    Now, wouldn't that just be nicer ?
     
  13. Baba gounj

    Baba gounj pensioner

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    you're weird
     
  14. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    the poor guy, why did he have to go shoot people after he got fired? He could have just gone home , got on line and posted for year or so about how he got wrongly shafted and perhaps have "the time of his life" by going to cuba ,florida, and mexico.
     
  15. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    If Canada was in the middle....all Canadians would speak Spanish.......Gringo!
     
  16. klein

    klein Für Meno :)

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    No, it's impossible for illegals to live, work or go to school here.
    Unless you think the Mexicans would have invaded us, but as you remember the British even fought Argentina over the tiny Falkland Islands.
    And, I do think tiny populated Canada has more military equiptment then Mexico (when do they ever go to war or peace-keeping) ?

    Pick-up, you forgot the Bahamas twice, too.
    Another wonderful place, that I'm certain I'll be back to.
     
  17. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    Would we get to keep that freakin' mall that u were bragging about in another thread if we all get magically transported to that land up north?
     
  18. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    Maybe we should ban drugs, get them off the streets, off the hands of everyone. That would end the violence and everybody could live much safer.

    Oops, I forgot, we already tried that. I guess there are some people (we call them "criminals" here in the States) that choose to break the laws instead of obeying them.

    I'm glad that these "criminals" arent the only ones with guns.
     
  19. pickup

    pickup Well-Known Member

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    Oh, the Bahamas, don't even recall that . How did those vacations fit into the gulf coast crisis time table? Before or after?
     
  20. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    Re: A shooting that erupted after an employee's disciplinary hearing left nine people

    I need to point out the historical fact that American gun owners are the reason that Canada enjoys its peaceful freedom and prosperity.

    America's civilian gun owners are the ones who overthrew the tyranny of the British Crown during the American Revolution, thereby allowing Canada to develop into the democracy it is today. If it weren't for us, you guys would still be British subjects instead of citizens of a democracy.

    For that matter, if it weren't for us, you guys would probably be speaking German and your flag would have a swastika instead of a maple leaf. While it is true that thousands of brave Canadians fought and died alongside their Amercian and British allies during WWII, your country lacked the resources or manpower to be a deciding factor in that war.

    I would also point out that part of the reason for your prosperity is due to the fact that you do not have to spend a huge portion of your GDP to support a military. You share an undefended 3000+ mile border with a military superpower that respects that border and chooses to peacefully coexist and cooperate with you instead of simply taking your significant natural resources by force. Do you think that your history would be the same if you shared that border with Russia? Or China?

    The USA is far from perfect, but you would do well to remember that the territorial integrity of your country is not guranteed by you, it is guranteed by us.