Abuse of Bid Drivers / Seasonal Drivers

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by mainstreetbrown1986, Nov 10, 2015.

  1. mainstreetbrown1986

    mainstreetbrown1986 New Member

    If I have a bid route, that is a training route, and management wants to pull me from my route to use a seasonal driver thru peak, not to gain seniority in any way, but to use my area knowledge on different problem routes, rather than use the seasonal driver. I feel this is totally wrong, and what area of the contract should I oppose this?
     
  2. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.

    As long as nobody less senior to you is working and you are laid off, I'm not sure there is anything you can do.

    You did realize it was a training route when you bid it, didn't you?
     
  3. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    I feel you are out of luck.

    There is no language that would oppose that that I know of.
     
  4. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

    Having a training route is like being a cover driver. They can pull you anytime they want.
     
  5. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Not necessarily, they need to rotate areas, if there is more than one training area.
     
  6. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Not true. As long as they are training someone you can be pulled. They can have three training routes and only use one to train. It's their choice.
     
  7. mainstreetbrown1986

    mainstreetbrown1986 New Member

    The driver is not training, he is a part timer that has drove for 3 seasonal periods. And his days are not being counted toward seniority, if so, I would understand. So he is not training, he is just filling a spot til peak is over.
     
  8. Rider

    Rider New Member

    Is the seasonal a new driver? Or has he/she driven for UPS before?
     
  9. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Not where I am at. They must rotate and use them evenly.
     
  10. mainstreetbrown1986

    mainstreetbrown1986 New Member

    He is a part timer that has driven for many seasonal petiods
     
  11. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    There is nothing in our contract that says they must rotate.
     
  12. mainstreetbrown1986

    mainstreetbrown1986 New Member

    Rotation is the proper way for training new drivers on training routes, but this is a part timer that has drove for years during the seasonal periods, he is NOT training.
     
  13. mainstreetbrown1986

    mainstreetbrown1986 New Member

    If his time counted toward training, and full time driving seniority, I would totally say that is fair.
     
  14. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    This is what it says in my supplement.

    • In centers where more than one (1) training route exists, these training routes shall be used on a rotating basis.
     
  15. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

    Unfortunately for you this is the major downfall of having bid a training route. Ask me how I know this?
     
  16. mainstreetbrown1986

    mainstreetbrown1986 New Member

    Rotation is contractually correct for TRAINEES not SEASONAL
     
  17. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    How do you know this?
     
  18. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

    Lmfao smart ass
     
  19. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Liar
     
  20. 2 hrs over allowed

    2 hrs over allowed Upstate follower

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