Abuse of Bid Drivers / Seasonal Drivers

[upschuck]

Liar

Nope

 

[Indecisi0n]

Nope

I say yes

 

[Rider]

If the seasonal driver isn't new, then I would say that he doesn't need to be trained. Hence no training route.

 

[cosmo1]

Not true. As long as they are training someone you can be pulled. They can have three training routes and only use one to train. It's their choice.

Not where I am at. They must rotate and use them evenly.

I forget how they could use them, but in my area there was one training route per loop.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I forget how they could use them, but in my area there was one training route per loop.

which they try to use and abuse

 

[mainstreetbrown1986]

Thank you, this is exactly how I see it. Training, OK, seasonal that has drove in the past, NOT OK [emoji106]

 

[burrheadd]

Not where I am at. They must rotate and use them evenly.

This

 

[selfcancelsignal]

Having a training route is like being a cover driver. They can pull you anytime they want.

This is precisely why I like mine. It has some bulk (which only a few are a PITA each day), but only 2 secure apartment buildings & the rest DR resi's. Plus, I've learned all but 4 of our center's routes, & I like a little gravel travel from time to time.

 

[Jackburton]

What supplement are you under?

 

[Jackburton]

ARTICLE 48 section 6 Southern Supplment

SECTION 6- PACKAGE DRIVERS - JOB SELECTION(A) Bid Routes : All routes shall be bid. There shall be a minimum of two (2) training delivery routes and a maximum of ten percent (10%) training delivery routes in each package center. The purpose of the training routes, is to train probationary package car drivers and temporary cover drivers. The training delivery routes shall be designated by the employer and listed as such on the center bid list. Should there be a need to change these training delivery routes, the employer will notify the Local Union. Package car drivers not holding a bid route will cover for vacations, options, personal holidays, sick days, and other absences of the regular bid drivers, or to cover overflow work.

 

[Mugarolla]

ARTICLE 48 section 6 Southern Supplment

SECTION 6- PACKAGE DRIVERS - JOB SELECTION(A) Bid Routes : All routes shall be bid. There shall be a minimum of two (2) training delivery routes and a maximum of ten percent (10%) training delivery routes in each package center. The purpose of the training routes, is to train probationary package car drivers and temporary cover drivers. The training delivery routes shall be designated by the employer and listed as such on the center bid list. Should there be a need to change these training delivery routes, the employer will notify the Local Union. Package car drivers not holding a bid route will cover for vacations, options, personal holidays, sick days, and other absences of the regular bid drivers, or to cover overflow work.

So in the Southern, they cannot pull you off your training route and let a seasonal run it.

The Central only says that these employees will work as assigned when the employer is training on their area. Does not specify probationary only.

It does say that they must be used on a rotating basis.

Article 3 Section 8

 

[alwaysRTS]

I agree with Rider. If the peak driver has driven prior peak seasons then there is no need to "train" them again. Sounds like you should be doing your route. That's how it's handled in the area where I work.

 

[Jackburton]

So in the Southern, they cannot pull you off your training route and let a seasonal run it.

The Central only says that these employees will work as assigned when the employer is training on their area. Does not specify probationary only.

It does say that they must be used on a rotating basis.

Article 3 Section 8

Yep, problem is getting the ones that get violated to file instead of whining.

 

[3 done 3 to go]

Training route or not. If it were running. I would be on it. Unless it is a newly hired driver. Xmas is not training. Training is over by then. All areas are done by the bid driver. Again. Sounds like UPS is making their own rules. They will get away with it till someone steps up. Most don't

 

[Wally]

Having a training route is like being a cover driver. They can pull you anytime they want.

When does so called training end? Once trained, off you go.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Training route or not. If it were running. I would be on it. Unless it is a newly hired driver. Xmas is not training. Training is over by then. All areas are done by the bid driver. Again. Sounds like UPS is making their own rules. They will get away with it till someone steps up. Most don't

We have a bid driver who is forced off of his training route every Peak. He likes the change of scenery and the seasonal driver gets a consistent mostly residential run for Peak.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Although I am not a Seasonal or temp driver, the last few years Center manager would give me another drivers pick ups so that driver could be loaded up with deliveries. Seemed to work well.

 

[Rainman]

Where I am, anyone, including me with a normal bidded route, can be pulled to run anything in November and December. What kind of job I would do, well, that's another question.