Accept pay freeze for future stronger contract language
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Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
Sure, just make 9.5 language set in the payroll system as automatic and count triple time on top of OT.
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UnconTROLLed
perfection
File this away with the several other "what's in it for me?" types.
The problem is that your idea doesn't help a majority of ups drivers I would have to say less than 20 percent have problem with 9.5 unless it's peak. With that being said it doesn't make any sense to give up guaranteed money for every driver and pt timers.
Overpaid Union Thug
Well-Known Member
I'm willing to accept a pay freeze as long as part-timers get a bigger raise than they normally get and as long as we get COLA increases along the way. It could help UPS keep rates down. It would be nice if our rates were more in line with the competition. Or cheaper even! Superior service AND lower prices would all but squash FedEx.
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
Funny thing is that's how FedEx is taking our customers. Chick-fla doesn't have the cheapest product by far, yet they offer superior service and product. People will pay higher if you offer something different and better then the competition. When you don't, you're just another fast food chain with higher expenses.
tourists24
Well-Known Member
As long as UPS is turning a profit... there is no need for us to make any concessions....
Anonymous 10
Guest
When and why did that happen.
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
It's been happening off and ever since I joined. At first I thought it was just me. In the meaningless fluff thread they explained it was some " flying porn monkies" to blame and they are working on it.
Jackburton
Gone Fish'n
Make that "how's the view" thread.
http://www.browncafe.com/forum/f6/hows-view-211867/index339.html#post826667
http://www.browncafe.com/forum/f6/hows-view-211867/index339.html#post826667
cachsux
Wah
Toss out a pay freeze idea for 22.3 and package drivers based upon contract changes that only benefit feeder drivers and get back to me on how fast your petition is filling up with their signatures.
If your worried over your 9.5 language get all the drivers to take lunches and work following all the methods and see if that doesn`t help a little more than taking money out of someone elses pocket.
22.3s here make every dime feeder drivers do when they perform feeder work PLUS they do not have to have CDLs, take drug tests,fall under 60 hr DOT guidelines, or get laid off when feeder work is light. Sure I`ll take a pay freeze to benefit them even more.
Freeze your pay for changes in the contract and you`ll find yourself making less money under a contract that the company would have no plan to honor any more than the one we have now.
Stick that in your file.
bellesmom
Well-Known Member
Always my luck..I'm a 22.3 in the wrong place!
Bubblehead
My Senior Picture
Contract language is only as good as the employees enforcing it.
The company is not held accountable to the language we have now.
What good would new language do us?
Money is the only thing driving this companies ideology.
To take a pay freeze would "freeze" things as they are.
I believe the only thing that will reduce overtime is the hourly rate.
Only when the hourly rate rate (especially at time and a half) outweighs the profitability to reduce cars on road, will we find the company looking to reduce overtime.
I think we have already seen the beginning of that trend.
This is evident by the companies insistence to keep us under 9.5.
Perhaps this is the present day Mendoza line.
Who believes this is because of present day contractual language?
Not me.
As others have echoed, contractual language aside from the aforementioned exception of the hourly rate, has no effect on this company.
Give up pay raises and we go backwards.
The company is not held accountable to the language we have now.
What good would new language do us?
Money is the only thing driving this companies ideology.
To take a pay freeze would "freeze" things as they are.
I believe the only thing that will reduce overtime is the hourly rate.
Only when the hourly rate rate (especially at time and a half) outweighs the profitability to reduce cars on road, will we find the company looking to reduce overtime.
I think we have already seen the beginning of that trend.
This is evident by the companies insistence to keep us under 9.5.
Perhaps this is the present day Mendoza line.
Who believes this is because of present day contractual language?
Not me.
As others have echoed, contractual language aside from the aforementioned exception of the hourly rate, has no effect on this company.
Give up pay raises and we go backwards.
Overpaid Union Thug
Well-Known Member
In my area we had lost some big accounts to RPS because of price but they all have come back to us. They were highly unimpressed with them.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
I like how everyone is up in arms about giving up raises, when your friend Hoffa sold out half of the raises last contract (50%) from 2002, with the smaller annual total raise and splitting them up. lol
No one was up in arms to that abortion and there is a lot of "hush hush".
Since 07, the drivers complain of too many hours and useless, loopholed 9.5 language. The previous contract was voted. through. No problem.
I say, if no one would want to once-and-for-all address excessive OT, just remove the 9.5 language altogether and just allow the company to do whatever they want up to the federal DOT limits and bring back the full $1/hr pay raises.
No one was up in arms to that abortion and there is a lot of "hush hush".
Since 07, the drivers complain of too many hours and useless, loopholed 9.5 language. The previous contract was voted. through. No problem.
I say, if no one would want to once-and-for-all address excessive OT, just remove the 9.5 language altogether and just allow the company to do whatever they want up to the federal DOT limits and bring back the full $1/hr pay raises.
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menotyou
bella amicizia
I will give up a raise when UPS gives up a profit.
