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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 554302" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>You are correct that the fine is $500 for false info on the form but one of the reasons nothing much has ever come of people not complying is the fact that the Constitution (I know it's seen as worthless paper but bare with me <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/wink.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink2:" title="Wink :wink2:" data-shortname=":wink2:" />) only authorizes a head count (<a href="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_America" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">Art. 1 Section 2</span></a> Enumeration) for the purpose of apportioning direct taxes and representatives. They have to do a head count to apportion the correct number of representives to a given geographic area. Anything beyond a head count which as many of you have pointed out in this day and age is so easily obtained by other gov't sources for the larger majority of us is not authorized. I believe this is a major reason no one is fined for so-called non compliance. </p><p> </p><p>Now like Tooner's nightmare, it won't mean the process and dealing with these folks won't be a pain in the kuzoo and Tooner sounds lucky that she was dealing with someone not on a power trip as the several folks I confronted back during the 1990' census. I had to deal with some folks who were attempting to use force under manipulation of law to insure my compliance and some may try that stunt, thus the warning I gave to Moreluck. You may have to push back so be prepared.</p><p> </p><p>As the year creeps towards the census, I expect the word from civil libertartain lawyers and advocates to start getting out on what the law is, precedence and your rights so keep an eye and ear open for some good advice. Keep your cool no matter what, be respectful no matter what, stay polite and even cheerful no matter what and record everything. I only had a tape recorder but it proved priceless along with a nosey neighbor. </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 554302, member: 2189"] You are correct that the fine is $500 for false info on the form but one of the reasons nothing much has ever come of people not complying is the fact that the Constitution (I know it's seen as worthless paper but bare with me :wink2:) only authorizes a head count ([URL="http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Constitution_of_the_United_States_of_America"][COLOR=red]Art. 1 Section 2[/COLOR][/URL] Enumeration) for the purpose of apportioning direct taxes and representatives. They have to do a head count to apportion the correct number of representives to a given geographic area. Anything beyond a head count which as many of you have pointed out in this day and age is so easily obtained by other gov't sources for the larger majority of us is not authorized. I believe this is a major reason no one is fined for so-called non compliance. Now like Tooner's nightmare, it won't mean the process and dealing with these folks won't be a pain in the kuzoo and Tooner sounds lucky that she was dealing with someone not on a power trip as the several folks I confronted back during the 1990' census. I had to deal with some folks who were attempting to use force under manipulation of law to insure my compliance and some may try that stunt, thus the warning I gave to Moreluck. You may have to push back so be prepared. As the year creeps towards the census, I expect the word from civil libertartain lawyers and advocates to start getting out on what the law is, precedence and your rights so keep an eye and ear open for some good advice. Keep your cool no matter what, be respectful no matter what, stay polite and even cheerful no matter what and record everything. I only had a tape recorder but it proved priceless along with a nosey neighbor. :happy-very: [/QUOTE]
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