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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 612998" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>AV8,</p><p>I am having trouble understanding your logic. I am clearly saying there is NO "winning" Afghanistan.</p><p> </p><p>There is no way to define what a "win" is.</p><p> </p><p>There is NO military solution, there is NO political solution, there is NO logistical solution, there is NO religious solution. </p><p> </p><p>Today, the Afghanistan war is purely a Political football. On the left, they want to exit the war as quickly as possible without the political fallout seeing NO light at the end of the tunnel.</p><p> </p><p>On the right, they dont care about victory or the safety of our troops, they are more concerned with the political leverage they can gain making a case for failure in Afghanistan. NOT ONE republican has layed out an outline for victory in Afghanistan.</p><p> </p><p>They provide the same ole same ole, more troops, more troops..blah blah blah... just like in vietnam, the same cry for more troops was given for a dozen years until it was realized that the cost of the vietnam war was going to ruin the United States infrastructure.</p><p> </p><p>Unfortunately, it did anyway. The years following the war in vietnam wiped out the economy for years.</p><p> </p><p>Today, Afghanistan will do the same. spending endless dollars playing politics instead of tacklng the real problems in the middle east will hurt our economy for years to come.</p><p> </p><p>The problem in Afghanistan goes beyond its borders and to merely lay troops on the ground will not accomplish a thing.</p><p> </p><p>All the controversy from the right has to do with 2010 elections and nothing more. If they can make Afghanistan fail by putting more troops on the ground and increasing american deaths, in 2010 they can claim the President failed to manage the war.</p><p> </p><p>The problem is, that the majority of americans understand BUSH failed in Afghanistan and put us where we are.</p><p> </p><p>So AV8, make sure you read this sentence clearly: THERE IS NO WINNING IN AFGHANISTAN.</p><p> </p><p>Until this country is ready to take on IRAN, RUSSIA, CHINA, PAKISTAN, SOMALIA, YEMEN, SAUDI ARABIA and all the smaller muslim countries connected to Afghanistan, then this war is a waste of time.</p><p> </p><p>Make no mistake AV8, this war cannot be "won".</p><p> </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 612998, member: 17969"] AV8, I am having trouble understanding your logic. I am clearly saying there is NO "winning" Afghanistan. There is no way to define what a "win" is. There is NO military solution, there is NO political solution, there is NO logistical solution, there is NO religious solution. Today, the Afghanistan war is purely a Political football. On the left, they want to exit the war as quickly as possible without the political fallout seeing NO light at the end of the tunnel. On the right, they dont care about victory or the safety of our troops, they are more concerned with the political leverage they can gain making a case for failure in Afghanistan. NOT ONE republican has layed out an outline for victory in Afghanistan. They provide the same ole same ole, more troops, more troops..blah blah blah... just like in vietnam, the same cry for more troops was given for a dozen years until it was realized that the cost of the vietnam war was going to ruin the United States infrastructure. Unfortunately, it did anyway. The years following the war in vietnam wiped out the economy for years. Today, Afghanistan will do the same. spending endless dollars playing politics instead of tacklng the real problems in the middle east will hurt our economy for years to come. The problem in Afghanistan goes beyond its borders and to merely lay troops on the ground will not accomplish a thing. All the controversy from the right has to do with 2010 elections and nothing more. If they can make Afghanistan fail by putting more troops on the ground and increasing american deaths, in 2010 they can claim the President failed to manage the war. The problem is, that the majority of americans understand BUSH failed in Afghanistan and put us where we are. So AV8, make sure you read this sentence clearly: THERE IS NO WINNING IN AFGHANISTAN. Until this country is ready to take on IRAN, RUSSIA, CHINA, PAKISTAN, SOMALIA, YEMEN, SAUDI ARABIA and all the smaller muslim countries connected to Afghanistan, then this war is a waste of time. Make no mistake AV8, this war cannot be "won". :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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