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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 644646" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>TIEGUY,</p><p></p><p>seems like the neo-conservatives on this board need a reminder....and I will provide one.</p><p></p><p>In 8 years, BUSH went from 53% approval rating when he took office, to almost 90% in 2001, then 7 years later, he was the worst in history!</p><p></p><p>No matter where OBAMA's ratings are presently, they are still HIGHER than BUSH. When OBAMA gets into the low 20's (like BUSH), then you will have a leg to stand on.</p><p></p><p>The majority of americans in this country do not like the "military action" in afghanistan. The country is war weary. There is a "minority" of americans (like yourself) who believe that a military victory can be won, even though thats an impossible task.</p><p></p><p>This country is NOT willing to extend to the goverment, an "open-ended" war with no time table for "re-assessment" and a transfer of responsibility to the afghan goverment. The non-sense about "gettting the terrorists" who attacked us went out the window when BUSH allowed Bin Laden to escape when he was in TORA BORA. Now, its a civil war between the many factions of the taliban.</p><p></p><p>Most people dont realize that the "taliban" isnt one group, but groups from many countries. These factions have combined from several countries to fight the US in afghanistan. The drug lords in afghanistan have a choice to make, side with the US or side with a faction of the taliban. Either way, they have a vested interest in heroin production. They can either lose the poppy fields to the goverment (and the profits) or stay in business and share those profits with the taliban.</p><p></p><p>We are not the WORLD POLICE, and I for one do like our yound men and women fighting and dying in Afghanistan just to protect a goverment who's main business is poppy fields and heroin.</p><p></p><p>There is NO overwhelming support for this war in this country, and most americans want our troops out of there as soon as possible.</p><p></p><p>We are entering our 9th year of occupation of afghanistan and we are no closer to victory than the day we invaded the country.</p><p></p><p>The President is right, build up our forces along with the NATO countries, train the goverment troops to levels where they can transition into responsibility. In 18 months, if there is NO progress, and the current goverment is still full of drug lords and gangsters, then we get out.</p><p></p><p>I applaud this decision. I wont fight for my political party with the lives of our young men and women in uniform.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 644646, member: 17969"] TIEGUY, seems like the neo-conservatives on this board need a reminder....and I will provide one. In 8 years, BUSH went from 53% approval rating when he took office, to almost 90% in 2001, then 7 years later, he was the worst in history! No matter where OBAMA's ratings are presently, they are still HIGHER than BUSH. When OBAMA gets into the low 20's (like BUSH), then you will have a leg to stand on. The majority of americans in this country do not like the "military action" in afghanistan. The country is war weary. There is a "minority" of americans (like yourself) who believe that a military victory can be won, even though thats an impossible task. This country is NOT willing to extend to the goverment, an "open-ended" war with no time table for "re-assessment" and a transfer of responsibility to the afghan goverment. The non-sense about "gettting the terrorists" who attacked us went out the window when BUSH allowed Bin Laden to escape when he was in TORA BORA. Now, its a civil war between the many factions of the taliban. Most people dont realize that the "taliban" isnt one group, but groups from many countries. These factions have combined from several countries to fight the US in afghanistan. The drug lords in afghanistan have a choice to make, side with the US or side with a faction of the taliban. Either way, they have a vested interest in heroin production. They can either lose the poppy fields to the goverment (and the profits) or stay in business and share those profits with the taliban. We are not the WORLD POLICE, and I for one do like our yound men and women fighting and dying in Afghanistan just to protect a goverment who's main business is poppy fields and heroin. There is NO overwhelming support for this war in this country, and most americans want our troops out of there as soon as possible. We are entering our 9th year of occupation of afghanistan and we are no closer to victory than the day we invaded the country. The President is right, build up our forces along with the NATO countries, train the goverment troops to levels where they can transition into responsibility. In 18 months, if there is NO progress, and the current goverment is still full of drug lords and gangsters, then we get out. I applaud this decision. I wont fight for my political party with the lives of our young men and women in uniform. Peace :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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