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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 76643" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>As for standards and qualifying and such I'll just say this. The entire Washington establishment and yes you could about say the same for my State gov't and your's likely also that it is hypoctical from top to bottom. </p><p>Instead of sticking to the facts and issues, we have a process that's more about "I gotcha" with National Enquirer headlines than about whether this person is one qualified and then what is that person's thinking and based on what reasoning. Most hearings are more about face time and grandstanding for the politician (both sides) than anything else. </p><p> </p><p>It's ironic sometimes to watch some committee that is having hearings on some issue that neither the public is interested in or the media isn't hyping for ratings and driving a story with it instead of reporting the story. Both sides are generally civil, they stick very much to the facts and try and pull from the process what is needed to make an informed decision in order to make the right vote. With a SCOTUS nominee is all about the party and any person nominated by the republicans will get the "Swiftboat" treatment or you could call it being "Borked" and if it were a democrat you get the same with the roles reversed. </p><p> </p><p>You made mention of Alito as a justice being held to a higher standard and on one point that has merit. However, the same standard should apply for someone who holds themselves as in the position to make law and set public policy by their position of power. I see this whole thing like a KKK member calling out a member of the Aryan nation as being a racist. Remember it's on thing to have said or believed something in the past and then remove yourself completely from those associations, and yes Byrd is no longer in the KKK and to my knowledge has shown no expression of that thinking, however Kennedy was still a member by his own admission of his need to move fast to get out. </p><p> </p><p>Personally, I love situations like this as the more we out these guys the more people may begin the realize the level of hypocrisy of lack of true morals and character all these guys really have.</p><p> </p><p>As to FOIA, let's just say I'm extremely familar with it much to the dislike of the IRS and their parting of over $20K to me back in the mid-90's thanks to info discovered using FOIA. </p><p> </p><p>As to Hillary? She could get elected and ironic as it may be I think nothing bars her from naming her husband as VP but don't look for that. If I were Hillary I'd get Sen. Obama from Illinois on board. This guy is very dynamic and well spoken. I believe the 2 of them would be a force and could very well get elected in the current climate and lack of any really dynamic leader out of the republican side. That's JMO.</p><p> </p><p>Lastly, I don't think you are Susan either but it is possible you are someone else who hasn't been around in a while and a couple of your comments were done and phrased in such a way you reminded me very much of this person. If I'm right, I won't tell because I think it's funny! Sure has Tie all worked up. </p><p> </p><p>Be cool!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 76643, member: 2189"] As for standards and qualifying and such I'll just say this. The entire Washington establishment and yes you could about say the same for my State gov't and your's likely also that it is hypoctical from top to bottom. Instead of sticking to the facts and issues, we have a process that's more about "I gotcha" with National Enquirer headlines than about whether this person is one qualified and then what is that person's thinking and based on what reasoning. Most hearings are more about face time and grandstanding for the politician (both sides) than anything else. It's ironic sometimes to watch some committee that is having hearings on some issue that neither the public is interested in or the media isn't hyping for ratings and driving a story with it instead of reporting the story. Both sides are generally civil, they stick very much to the facts and try and pull from the process what is needed to make an informed decision in order to make the right vote. With a SCOTUS nominee is all about the party and any person nominated by the republicans will get the "Swiftboat" treatment or you could call it being "Borked" and if it were a democrat you get the same with the roles reversed. You made mention of Alito as a justice being held to a higher standard and on one point that has merit. However, the same standard should apply for someone who holds themselves as in the position to make law and set public policy by their position of power. I see this whole thing like a KKK member calling out a member of the Aryan nation as being a racist. Remember it's on thing to have said or believed something in the past and then remove yourself completely from those associations, and yes Byrd is no longer in the KKK and to my knowledge has shown no expression of that thinking, however Kennedy was still a member by his own admission of his need to move fast to get out. Personally, I love situations like this as the more we out these guys the more people may begin the realize the level of hypocrisy of lack of true morals and character all these guys really have. As to FOIA, let's just say I'm extremely familar with it much to the dislike of the IRS and their parting of over $20K to me back in the mid-90's thanks to info discovered using FOIA. As to Hillary? She could get elected and ironic as it may be I think nothing bars her from naming her husband as VP but don't look for that. If I were Hillary I'd get Sen. Obama from Illinois on board. This guy is very dynamic and well spoken. I believe the 2 of them would be a force and could very well get elected in the current climate and lack of any really dynamic leader out of the republican side. That's JMO. Lastly, I don't think you are Susan either but it is possible you are someone else who hasn't been around in a while and a couple of your comments were done and phrased in such a way you reminded me very much of this person. If I'm right, I won't tell because I think it's funny! Sure has Tie all worked up. Be cool! [/QUOTE]
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