All Air Drivers To Be Eliminated?

[shalang]

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Are these rumors substantiated? Would suck for a lot of us that have been doing this for a long time with our own routes. I remember that EAM drivers were laid off a few years ago and their jobs reconfigured to the hub. Perhaps we have to make that unfortunate move to full-time driving...

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

It's cheaper to pay a full time driver to work Saturday air, than to have an extra body on the payroll.

 

[Big Arrow Down...D]

They're using hub rats and T-S guys for Saturday in our center as well, air drivers will be a thing of the past.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

They're using hub rats and T-S guys for Saturday in our center as well, air drivers will be a thing of the past.

Unfortunately... yes

 

[shalang]

It's cheaper to pay a full time driver to work Saturday air, than to have an extra body on the payroll.

I agree that it ia a cheaper expense. I dont resent UPS for doing it at all.

What does this mean for full time drivers? Even if they hire more FT drivers, wont their workload be even more demanding? Usually they use us PT Air Drivers as covers and also to do last minute deliveries.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Saturdays used to be staffed with just PT (6). Now only 2 or 3 PT and the rest FT drivers making time and a half. The last 2 PT air drivers we picked up were disqualified package car drivers.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I agree I dont resent UPS for doing it at all.

What does this mean for full time drivers? Even if they hire more FT drivers, wont their workload be even more demanding? Usually they use us PT Air Drivers as covers and also to do last minute deliveries.

More people on the payroll, more pension money, more paid vacations and holidays, more health care, more vehicles they need to purchase...etc etc

 

[shalang]

Saturdays used to be staffed with just PT (6). Now only 2 or 3 PT and the rest FT drivers making time and a half. The last 2 PT air drivers we picked up were disqualified package car drivers.

Our team consists of PT air drivers. Rest are FT. A lot of the PT are rubbish and just stay in the building and/or take out 3-5 stops.

 

[shalang]

More people on the payroll, more pension money, more paid vacations and holidays, more health care, more vehicles they need to purchase...etc etc

Very valid points.

Ive been thinking about joining PE. Seems like their jobs are safe unlike ours.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Unfortunately... yes

They are no longer cost effective.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Very valid points.

Ive been thinking about joining PE. Seems like their jobs are safe unlike ours.

...or you could make the logical move to FT driver...

 

[Johney]

ALL air drivers can't be eliminated, but Saturday ones surely will.

 

[shalang]

...or you could make the logical move to FT driver...

FT may be for some people but for me personally it taxes the body heavily. Mentally it can be stressfull as well , especially during peak and if your preloader sucks.

FT aint no joke unless you have a cake route, something you wont see until you put years in. Furthermore, those 14 hour days is not for me. No time to see the wife or kids. In my hub at least, drivers have a high divorce rate. There are somethings more important than money.

I do recall the 9-5 list which isnt bad. However, our hub rarely upholds it and still makes the drivers work.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Who in the hell works 14 hour days??

 

[Johney]

Who in the hell works 14 hour days??

Some do in the real world Dave.

 

[shalang]

Who in the hell works 14 hour days??

Our hub does. Drivers dont get off until 11 Pm. They bleed them until 13.99. hours many days. A lot depends on each center but I have been at my hub at 10 PM and see the drivers pulling in.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Our hub does. Drivers dont get off until 11 Pm. They bleed them until 13.99. hours everyday.

You can only drive 60 hours per week.

 

[shalang]

ALL air drivers can't be eliminated, but Saturday ones surely will.

Our Air Drivers are all Saturday. The only other Air Drivers are the ones with a combo. Those are only 2 guys in our big building.

 

[Billy Ray]

We have never had air drivers.

 

[shalang]

You can only drive 60 hours per week.

My apologies. I should have said most days. The only time FT come in on Saturday is if they havent hit it yet. But for the most part these guys come in around 10-11. A lot of the times they run out of hours during the weekday.