Amazon in hot water

[box_beeyotch]

Your opinion is crap. The challenger is a badass car I would buy over a Mercedes, BMW, or Audi You obviously know nothing about cars.

Any AMG Mercedes would run it right off the road. More power, more torque, and just an all around classier car. The challenger might be an American classic but doesn't even come close to precise German engineering. You're talking a 50,000 dollar car vs a 100,000 plus car.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Oh, and if Amazon went, there goes thousands of corresponding jobs (suppliers, shippers, ect..).

Don't disagree about unions and Amazon, but this is more hysteria and tin foil talking points from you with nothing to back it up. If Amazon went under, consumers would still buy stuff and those null contracts providing goods and services would be rebid for other businesses to capture.

With the advent of Amazon, along with the Wal-Marts and etcTHERE WENT hundreds of thousands or even millions of jobs lost, yet that is okay.

And it's "et cetera" or etc. if you didn't notice.

 

[JL 0513]

Any AMG Mercedes would run it right off the road. More power, more torque, and just an all around classier car. The challenger might be an American classic but doesn't even come close to precise German engineering. You're talking a 50,000 dollar car vs a 100,000 plus car.

He's citing the Hellcat with 707 HP. It kills almost every AMG model in acceleration (even half million dollar models). Of course, you add some curves to the course, then the AMG has it. At 5-10 times the cost, I would hope so.

 

[JL 0513]

Don't disagree about unions and Amazon, but this is more hysteria and tin foil talking points from you with nothing to back it up. If Amazon went under, consumers would still buy stuff and those null contracts providing goods and services would be rebid for other businesses to capture.

With the advent of Amazon, along with the Wal-Marts and etcTHERE WENT hundreds of thousands or even millions of jobs lost, yet that is okay.

And it's "et cetera" or etc. if you didn't notice.

Amazon's volume would eventually shake out but it would be disruptive for a while. Amazon is the only place you can go and pretty much find anything. Everywhere else, is more limited and focused. People would just shop around all over the place and would likely have to pay more. No other online retailer is unionized either so what is the argument? A union isn't happening at any of these places.

And sorry for my awful typo. I know it's etc...

 

[Jordan8021]

Ups is worse

 

[Brownslave688]

Amazon's volume would eventually shake out but it would be disruptive for a while. Amazon is the only place you can go and pretty much find anything. Everywhere else, is more limited and focused. People would just shop around all over the place and would likely have to pay more. No other online retailer is unionized either so what is the argument? A union isn't happening at any of these places.

And sorry for my awful typo. I know it's etc...

You can almost always find stuff cheaper than it is on Amazon.

In this day and age Amazon going under would be a blip within a year.

 

[FrigidFTSup]

Can I continue to support Amazon?

As long as I still have my instant video and free 2 day shipping I will.

I have trouble sympathizing with some of the people complaining. Crying at the desk because their feelings are hurt?

I should cry the next time my FT yells at me. See how it works.

Just look at the tech companies taking a beating for not hiring more minoroties. News flash there aren't any to hire.

Sure there are, they're just all in China. My dad is a chemist, he develops the chemicals they use on circuit boards. What the company does is hire these people in China, train them a little bit, and then get them a visa and bring them to the US. The kicker is they only pay them 60% of what they'd pay a US born and raised chemist AND they get to claim they are diverse. He hates it because they're crap, the bean counters love it because they save a ton of cash.

Just don't kill a lion.

That guy actually just reopened. So much for he was done.

its no different than any other non union company.

No it really isn't. Contrary to popular belief on here, union companies aren't some utopia.

Do you really blame them though? Their almost more well off then those of us who work everyday. Why work for 9 or 10 dollars an hour when you can have nicer things by doing nothing. Are they the stupid ones or are we? I have to wonder some days.

We're stupid for allowing it to happen. We're going to end up like Greece if we keep it up.

Oh, and if Amazon went, there goes thousands of corresponding jobs (suppliers, shippers, ect..).

Not a chance.

Amazon is the only place you can go and pretty much find anything. Everywhere else, is more limited and focused.

Sure I can't go to target.com and get some goofy specialized t-shirt. But I just looked at my last 10 Amazon purchases, and I would have been able to get them all at Target, Walmart, or Menards.

 

[olroadbeech]

maybe I should have said large corporate non union companies are like amazon. I have worked for several and so have members of my family.

we think we are treated bad. try the other side. you are nothing but a slave and don't even realizr it.

I aint speaking out of the side of my mouth. I have been there.

 

[box_beeyotch]

He's citing the Hellcat with 707 HP. It kills almost every AMG model in acceleration (even half million dollar models). Of course, you add some curves to the course, then the AMG has it. At 5-10 times the cost, I would hope so.

Acceleration wise it may kill, but which one is better built and is going to last longer?? All I'm saying is people sleep on Mercedes. Mercedes and BMW are the only two manufacturers I consider to be real German cars.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

its no different than any other non union company.

You really have no idea what you are talking about, regardless of the topic being discussed.

 

[Turdferguson]

My ...

What?

 

[Wally]

All these places need is a good Union.

 

[JL 0513]

A union would raise their raises but it wouldn't fix the supposed tough working conditions. Exhibit A - UPS. UPS has the toughest working conditions I've ever seen among many jobs I've had, and it's the only union job I've had.

 

[Mugarolla]

I got a gift for 1 year then they did away with it. It was a $60 set of cutting boards we still use.

I would be happy just to start getting the wallets again every year for safe driving.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Can I continue to support Amazon?

http://usat.ly/1NAWGm1


There's a few more articles out there if anyone else wants to post the links but the New York Times did a write up on amazons working conditions and let's just say it isn't pretty.

http://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/i-was-a-warehouse-wage-slave.354149/#post-1244227

 

[jumpman23]

A union would raise their raises but it wouldn't fix the supposed tough working conditions. Exhibit A - UPS. UPS has the toughest working conditions I've ever seen among many jobs I've had, and it's the only union job I've had.

It would raise their raises and better benefits most likely yes. We have a union yes but imagine how worse the working conditions could be if we didn't have a union. Our job and like Amazon definitely needs a union to deal with their selfishness and shadiness. People would be getting fired left and right if we didn't have a union.

 

[TUT]

As a nation we are going backwards not forwards ,with wages and working conditions.

Watching a Bernie Sanders video yesterday the million dollar question he was asked:
"Why does the middle class vote against their own self interests?"
(Because we know the top end hirers people only for their self interests in finding loopholes and saving a buck)

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Watching a Bernie Sanders video yesterday the million dollar question he was asked:
"Why does the middle class vote against their own self interests?"

Because they are looking for the payout today and not the price tag of tomorrow.

 

[JL 0513]

Watching a Bernie Sanders video yesterday the million dollar question he was asked:
"Why does the middle class vote against their own self interests?"
(Because we know the top end hirers people only for their self interests in finding loopholes and saving a buck)

Socialism is at the opposite end of our self interest, by definition. Socialism = suffering all together except for the ruling class. Sanders basically talks about destroying every sector of the economy because they are all evil while also saying everyone will be making good middle class money and have all kinds of stuff for free. Um, it doesn't quite add up Bernie. Sorry.

 

[By The Book]

It would raise their raises and better benefits most likely yes. We have a union yes but imagine how worse the working conditions could be if we didn't have a union. Our job and like Amazon definitely needs a union to deal with their selfishness and shadiness. People would be getting fired left and right if we didn't have a union.

I don't know if the working conditions could get any worse. We do need the union to deal with the selfishness and shadiness, not sit by and watch the beat down. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the company likes the grievance procedure as much as we do. I think a lot of the people who the company would fire may have more teeth in the protections of their state laws than our grievance procedure. I think these employees could/would have UPS in the courts and spotlight a lot,and I just think UPS prefers it this way. I don't want to test the waters though, I just want our leaders to enforce the contract, top to bottom.