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<blockquote data-quote="Scuba Steve" data-source="post: 1979563" data-attributes="member: 51466"><p>FDX Air service was not more established. People at UPS didn't feel FDX was a threat and wouldn't succeed.</p><p></p><p>UPS started air service in 1929, 15 years before the founder of FDX was born. UPS stopped air service during the depression. UPS resumed air service with a Blue Label and Red Label air in 1958 when the founder of FDX was only 14 years old.</p><p></p><p>UPS was like Amazon using other carriers for air shipments. FDX came in the picture with their own planes and pilots (like Amazon is thinking now) in 1971 and serving multiple cities in 1973. This was 15 years after UPS restarting air service. UPS finally started buying aircraft in 1981 and using Evergreen, Orion and Ryan pilots to fly them. UPS was the launch customer for the 757 PF but Ryan was the first operator flying the UPS 757.</p><p></p><p>UPS finally started their own airline in 1988. Little known fact UPS was in a joint venture with DHL in the late 80's. They both owned half of an airline called IPX. UPS needed the routes to Japan. UPS bought the other half of IPX in 1987 from DHL and used the IPX certificate to form UPS Airlines (5x) in 1988.</p><p></p><p>Another little known fact was UPS was in talks to buy Flying Tigers for direct flights to China. Fed Ex got it done. Kinda like the TNT deal, UPS botched it. Fed Ex also bought China routes from Evergreen. It took UPS 12 years to finally be able to fly direct to China. UPS had to use space on other carriers to service China while FDX was flying direct. </p><p></p><p>Arrogance of being the industry leader has lead to many downfalls of companies. The botched TNT deal, UPS had to pay a $267 million termination fee, then FDX ended up getting TNT for $2.2 billion less than UPS was going to pay. This will give FDX equal ground infrastructure in Europe with UPS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scuba Steve, post: 1979563, member: 51466"] FDX Air service was not more established. People at UPS didn't feel FDX was a threat and wouldn't succeed. UPS started air service in 1929, 15 years before the founder of FDX was born. UPS stopped air service during the depression. UPS resumed air service with a Blue Label and Red Label air in 1958 when the founder of FDX was only 14 years old. UPS was like Amazon using other carriers for air shipments. FDX came in the picture with their own planes and pilots (like Amazon is thinking now) in 1971 and serving multiple cities in 1973. This was 15 years after UPS restarting air service. UPS finally started buying aircraft in 1981 and using Evergreen, Orion and Ryan pilots to fly them. UPS was the launch customer for the 757 PF but Ryan was the first operator flying the UPS 757. UPS finally started their own airline in 1988. Little known fact UPS was in a joint venture with DHL in the late 80's. They both owned half of an airline called IPX. UPS needed the routes to Japan. UPS bought the other half of IPX in 1987 from DHL and used the IPX certificate to form UPS Airlines (5x) in 1988. Another little known fact was UPS was in talks to buy Flying Tigers for direct flights to China. Fed Ex got it done. Kinda like the TNT deal, UPS botched it. Fed Ex also bought China routes from Evergreen. It took UPS 12 years to finally be able to fly direct to China. UPS had to use space on other carriers to service China while FDX was flying direct. Arrogance of being the industry leader has lead to many downfalls of companies. The botched TNT deal, UPS had to pay a $267 million termination fee, then FDX ended up getting TNT for $2.2 billion less than UPS was going to pay. This will give FDX equal ground infrastructure in Europe with UPS. [/QUOTE]
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