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<blockquote data-quote="quadro" data-source="post: 272271" data-attributes="member: 12850"><p>I'm not here to prove you right or wrong. My whole point has been that you educate yourself and be informed. You are so convinced (evident by you first post in this thread) that FedEx is screwing you and a union would make things better, that you aren't paying attention to the facts. Please don't take this the wrong way, but I can see it now; you're watching the FXTV broadcast with your peers and complaining how you're getting screwed and that they'd be better off with a union and you're missing key points of the broadcast.</p><p>What you've sort of described is the 401K. It's certainly not the PPP and it's not a very accurate description of the 401K either. In a nutshell, if you are already contributing to the 401K, nothing will change except the company match will increase. If you are not, you will be autoenrolled (I don't have the % handy) but you can change that % up or down or totally opt out if you don't want to participate. So it's not "whether you want it or not". And the amount isn't necessarily matched, per se. It depends on how much you put in.</p><p>The PPP on the other hand is totally paid for by FedEx. How much is put in depends on your age and your years of service.</p><p>All of this info is available to you via your manager or the FedEx Intranet. Take the time to understand it before you dismiss it.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Shared similar stories about filling up passenger planes with packages???? You can't make blanket statements about an entire group of employees. You don't know how most of the pilots feel.</p><p>So what if business jumpseat saves money. That's a good thing. And again, this is the same reservation system that was perfectly capable of handling personal jumpseat not only prior to, but also after, 9/11. And again, if the goal was to save money by eliminating personal jumpseat, they had an excuse to do that some 10-12 years ago.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Actually, if you look at the policy, you are not penalized for a preventable injury. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, it's illegal to do that. What you are accountable for is the unsafe act that led to the injury. And before you say it's the same thing, you can commit an unsafe act and not be injured but the accountability is the same.</p><p>I'm not going to go into a lengthy discussion about accidents and injuries. I'll just say a couple of things. First, Federal Law protects some employees by requiring the employer to only hold the position for 84 days. FedEx protects all employees for at least 90 days. Second, just because a driver (any driver, not just FedEx employees) isn't at fault, doesn't mean that they couldn't have prevented the accident. Look up comparative negligence for more info. It's probably true that in most cases if the FedEx driver has any comparative negligence, then the accident is deemed to be preventable.</p><p>Also, repetative injuries I can see, but why should FedEx expect you to fall?</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Nope, not had a charmed life. And I think you've got balls and pusillanimous confused. A manager with balls, will do what's right no matter how unpopular the decision. None of my friends have been fired, harassed, or otherwise intimiated when they legitimately got hurt. I have to wonder what type of people you're hanging out with if you know dozens who are getting fired, harassed, or otherwise intimited when they get hurt and presumably some that aren't getting fired, harassed, or otherwise intimidated when they get hurt. That's a lot of people you know who get hurt. Hopefully you don't know me. <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy2.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy2:" title="Happy2 :happy2:" data-shortname=":happy2:" /></p><p> </p><p>You know, you accuse people of being sheeple but you want them to be sheeple only if they follow your ideals. Without being informed, they are more likely to be lemmings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="quadro, post: 272271, member: 12850"] I'm not here to prove you right or wrong. My whole point has been that you educate yourself and be informed. You are so convinced (evident by you first post in this thread) that FedEx is screwing you and a union would make things better, that you aren't paying attention to the facts. Please don't take this the wrong way, but I can see it now; you're watching the FXTV broadcast with your peers and complaining how you're getting screwed and that they'd be better off with a union and you're missing key points of the broadcast. What you've sort of described is the 401K. It's certainly not the PPP and it's not a very accurate description of the 401K either. In a nutshell, if you are already contributing to the 401K, nothing will change except the company match will increase. If you are not, you will be autoenrolled (I don't have the % handy) but you can change that % up or down or totally opt out if you don't want to participate. So it's not "whether you want it or not". And the amount isn't necessarily matched, per se. It depends on how much you put in. The PPP on the other hand is totally paid for by FedEx. How much is put in depends on your age and your years of service. All of this info is available to you via your manager or the FedEx Intranet. Take the time to understand it before you dismiss it. Shared similar stories about filling up passenger planes with packages???? You can't make blanket statements about an entire group of employees. You don't know how most of the pilots feel. So what if business jumpseat saves money. That's a good thing. And again, this is the same reservation system that was perfectly capable of handling personal jumpseat not only prior to, but also after, 9/11. And again, if the goal was to save money by eliminating personal jumpseat, they had an excuse to do that some 10-12 years ago. Actually, if you look at the policy, you are not penalized for a preventable injury. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, it's illegal to do that. What you are accountable for is the unsafe act that led to the injury. And before you say it's the same thing, you can commit an unsafe act and not be injured but the accountability is the same. I'm not going to go into a lengthy discussion about accidents and injuries. I'll just say a couple of things. First, Federal Law protects some employees by requiring the employer to only hold the position for 84 days. FedEx protects all employees for at least 90 days. Second, just because a driver (any driver, not just FedEx employees) isn't at fault, doesn't mean that they couldn't have prevented the accident. Look up comparative negligence for more info. It's probably true that in most cases if the FedEx driver has any comparative negligence, then the accident is deemed to be preventable. Also, repetative injuries I can see, but why should FedEx expect you to fall? Nope, not had a charmed life. And I think you've got balls and pusillanimous confused. A manager with balls, will do what's right no matter how unpopular the decision. None of my friends have been fired, harassed, or otherwise intimiated when they legitimately got hurt. I have to wonder what type of people you're hanging out with if you know dozens who are getting fired, harassed, or otherwise intimited when they get hurt and presumably some that aren't getting fired, harassed, or otherwise intimidated when they get hurt. That's a lot of people you know who get hurt. Hopefully you don't know me. :happy2: You know, you accuse people of being sheeple but you want them to be sheeple only if they follow your ideals. Without being informed, they are more likely to be lemmings. [/QUOTE]
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