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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 75194" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Back in the mid to late 80's UPS purchased a large tract of land 25 miles north of Atlanta and at the time rumors were that UPS would build a slightly scaled down Consolidation Hub like CACH. Not long after purchase they graded off the land but beyond that nothing. It sat left useless for years until I think the late 90's when it was announced UPS Logistics would develop the property in a variety of ways. But nothing ever materialized with the months that followed. Scuttle butt floated within UPS and from outside sources around the community that UPS came in with a "our way of else" attitude concerning the property and thus nothing was ever approved for development. There really is a higher power UPS.<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/biggrin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":biggrin:" title="Biggrin :biggrin:" data-shortname=":biggrin:" /> </p><p> </p><p>Finally after so many years of nothing UPS sold the property to FedEx who is now in the final stages of building a very nice and large ground facilty capable of servicing a very large and populated geographic area on North Central to West Metro Atlanta region and into the North Central to West Georgia area. I heard the FedEx folks weren't as demanding and condescending to the local community leaders. This building has great access to the I-75 corridor and a 4 lane direct route of less than 30 minutes to the I-20 corridor west of Atlanta. Major railheads are 25 miles south in downtown Atlanta and another major point little know just 20 minutes north in Cartersville Ga. Also a few 100 feet away is an airport already servicing large corp. jet aircraft and with a current runway extension would be capable of handling larger cargo aircraft (a rampway would be a piece of cake to build)however local leaders and FAA state this will not happen as I've asked both of them directly myself. I'm not convinced this is the case as I've lived in this area for over 30 years and have heard this kind of thing before only to see it happen.</p><p> </p><p>My point is to say do not discount what FedEx is doing at all because the infrastructure they are building is not only new but also more automated and easier to take advantage of in the future to further automate it's internal processes. I know the company constructing the conveyor systems and I've drove by and seen the system from the street and it's nothing to laugh and joke at. At some point UPS will have to begin to invest massive amounts of $$$$ to upgrade and in some cases replace a lot of it's infrastructure it built during the 50's, 60's, 70's and even the 80's because of technology needs and the needs of a changing workforce. I would agree we seem in the driver's seat for now but I wouldn't get so cocky as to totally discount FedEx. I also own FedEx stock and have for several years and hands down FedEx has beat UPS as an investment. Some of it is fluff and a poor PR job by UPS and I'm betting some high ups at UPS don't think certain waste products they create stinks which adds to the problem but FedEx does have advantages like the one above for example that UPS does not enjoy. Worldport IMO shows we can automate and do it right but it's not cheap either.</p><p> </p><p>Automation is very expensive and one of the driving facts that cause UPS to drag it's feet. UPS also makes the mistake of trying to do everything in-house which does have it's advantages but your ideas and processes are limited. Worldport was not in-house. Hint! Hint! Some things off the shelf can and do work better. That said however, UPS workforce is becoming more and more a burden on a variety of fronts and thus the difference cost wise between automation and non-automation is coming to an intersect point. UPS will never altogether eliminate people but some of it's internal processes could be made a non-human function. Loading and Unloading will never be non-human but everything in between could easily be. This is not an "IF" but "WHEN" IMO and FedEx has begun to see the light and act on it. "IF" FedEx can get density and cure some of the service problem that they face as well as outrun the legal issues concerning IC's, some of you crowing roosters here might find yourselves staring at a flour bowl and hot frying pan along with many of the rest of us who never saw this coming! As we say down south, "Don't Get Uppity Just Yet!"</p><p> </p><p>JMHO and a realist UPSer</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 75194, member: 2189"] Back in the mid to late 80's UPS purchased a large tract of land 25 miles north of Atlanta and at the time rumors were that UPS would build a slightly scaled down Consolidation Hub like CACH. Not long after purchase they graded off the land but beyond that nothing. It sat left useless for years until I think the late 90's when it was announced UPS Logistics would develop the property in a variety of ways. But nothing ever materialized with the months that followed. Scuttle butt floated within UPS and from outside sources around the community that UPS came in with a "our way of else" attitude concerning the property and thus nothing was ever approved for development. There really is a higher power UPS.:biggrin: Finally after so many years of nothing UPS sold the property to FedEx who is now in the final stages of building a very nice and large ground facilty capable of servicing a very large and populated geographic area on North Central to West Metro Atlanta region and into the North Central to West Georgia area. I heard the FedEx folks weren't as demanding and condescending to the local community leaders. This building has great access to the I-75 corridor and a 4 lane direct route of less than 30 minutes to the I-20 corridor west of Atlanta. Major railheads are 25 miles south in downtown Atlanta and another major point little know just 20 minutes north in Cartersville Ga. Also a few 100 feet away is an airport already servicing large corp. jet aircraft and with a current runway extension would be capable of handling larger cargo aircraft (a rampway would be a piece of cake to build)however local leaders and FAA state this will not happen as I've asked both of them directly myself. I'm not convinced this is the case as I've lived in this area for over 30 years and have heard this kind of thing before only to see it happen. My point is to say do not discount what FedEx is doing at all because the infrastructure they are building is not only new but also more automated and easier to take advantage of in the future to further automate it's internal processes. I know the company constructing the conveyor systems and I've drove by and seen the system from the street and it's nothing to laugh and joke at. At some point UPS will have to begin to invest massive amounts of $$$$ to upgrade and in some cases replace a lot of it's infrastructure it built during the 50's, 60's, 70's and even the 80's because of technology needs and the needs of a changing workforce. I would agree we seem in the driver's seat for now but I wouldn't get so cocky as to totally discount FedEx. I also own FedEx stock and have for several years and hands down FedEx has beat UPS as an investment. Some of it is fluff and a poor PR job by UPS and I'm betting some high ups at UPS don't think certain waste products they create stinks which adds to the problem but FedEx does have advantages like the one above for example that UPS does not enjoy. Worldport IMO shows we can automate and do it right but it's not cheap either. Automation is very expensive and one of the driving facts that cause UPS to drag it's feet. UPS also makes the mistake of trying to do everything in-house which does have it's advantages but your ideas and processes are limited. Worldport was not in-house. Hint! Hint! Some things off the shelf can and do work better. That said however, UPS workforce is becoming more and more a burden on a variety of fronts and thus the difference cost wise between automation and non-automation is coming to an intersect point. UPS will never altogether eliminate people but some of it's internal processes could be made a non-human function. Loading and Unloading will never be non-human but everything in between could easily be. This is not an "IF" but "WHEN" IMO and FedEx has begun to see the light and act on it. "IF" FedEx can get density and cure some of the service problem that they face as well as outrun the legal issues concerning IC's, some of you crowing roosters here might find yourselves staring at a flour bowl and hot frying pan along with many of the rest of us who never saw this coming! As we say down south, "Don't Get Uppity Just Yet!" JMHO and a realist UPSer [/QUOTE]
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