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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 100894" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Dboy,</p><p>I don't know of what you spoke of from the radio but I do know that the AFLCIO has been active in the immigrant population for a variety of reasons. Like or dislike, they are active in making sure that labor law is not violated with these folks as a labor precedent could then be used against American citizen workers in the labor adminstrative process including the courts. I'm no fan of AFLCIO but I do agree this as a legit concern on their part.</p><p> </p><p>Also, our nation's history as it pertains to business expansion and yes you could read empirical expansion here has been done with the use of cheap labor. First it was African Americans both as slave and then as free persons but then you had the Chinese and Irish in the latter 1800's, European immigrants in the early 20th century and now the focus is on the folks south of the border. The cheap labor threatens the present wage structure just as when someone in your neighborhood sells their house way below market value it can tend to bring the value of the surrounding houses down if that trend is able to continue. Labor is no different. Think and Mom and Pop hardware or Goods Supply or Grocery Store as the American workforce but now think of Walmart as the immigrant worker. Now this example may be some distasteful and maybe even over the top, I'll conceed that, but in the case of supply and demand economics this is life and who's growing and spreading and getting their way in the overall marketplace and who's strinking more and more? Mom and Pop in many cases are now working for Walmart. </p><p> </p><p>Based on that line of thinking, I could see the AFLCIO doing what you described or something along those lines because it brings the overall wage floor up which in the end helps AFLCIO protect it's membership. AFLCIO's website has lots of info for immigrant workers so they are active in that area. As for the illegals, they aren't going anywhere as the republicans want them for the cheap labor as they are helping to drive this economy right now even with what drain they may place on local and state infastructure. The democrats see them as another voting block to add to their numbers so in the end neither side really wants to do anything to upset the apple cart. </p><p> </p><p>As much as I hate to admit it, Sweeney and the AFLCIO in the end may be doing us all a big favor if in fact he is out there fighting to get them higher wages. Just another way of looking at this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 100894, member: 2189"] Dboy, I don't know of what you spoke of from the radio but I do know that the AFLCIO has been active in the immigrant population for a variety of reasons. Like or dislike, they are active in making sure that labor law is not violated with these folks as a labor precedent could then be used against American citizen workers in the labor adminstrative process including the courts. I'm no fan of AFLCIO but I do agree this as a legit concern on their part. Also, our nation's history as it pertains to business expansion and yes you could read empirical expansion here has been done with the use of cheap labor. First it was African Americans both as slave and then as free persons but then you had the Chinese and Irish in the latter 1800's, European immigrants in the early 20th century and now the focus is on the folks south of the border. The cheap labor threatens the present wage structure just as when someone in your neighborhood sells their house way below market value it can tend to bring the value of the surrounding houses down if that trend is able to continue. Labor is no different. Think and Mom and Pop hardware or Goods Supply or Grocery Store as the American workforce but now think of Walmart as the immigrant worker. Now this example may be some distasteful and maybe even over the top, I'll conceed that, but in the case of supply and demand economics this is life and who's growing and spreading and getting their way in the overall marketplace and who's strinking more and more? Mom and Pop in many cases are now working for Walmart. Based on that line of thinking, I could see the AFLCIO doing what you described or something along those lines because it brings the overall wage floor up which in the end helps AFLCIO protect it's membership. AFLCIO's website has lots of info for immigrant workers so they are active in that area. As for the illegals, they aren't going anywhere as the republicans want them for the cheap labor as they are helping to drive this economy right now even with what drain they may place on local and state infastructure. The democrats see them as another voting block to add to their numbers so in the end neither side really wants to do anything to upset the apple cart. As much as I hate to admit it, Sweeney and the AFLCIO in the end may be doing us all a big favor if in fact he is out there fighting to get them higher wages. Just another way of looking at this. [/QUOTE]
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