There comes a point in a thread when you just have to give up and say nothing. I watched the "UPS shut down" thread start, and go downhill from there. I added, what I believed to be, a thoughtful response. I just wonder what the response would have been, had no one responded when the poster/s started ranting? I didn't take it personally, when the person stated their opinion about the USPS or FedEx, though I understand how some of us can be irked by some of the things the poster said. What I'm getting at is, why spoil your down time? We're not a gang, we're a family. Like all families, I understand, we have differing opinions. Sometimes those opinions can get us into trouble. Our very lives are put at risk, daily. Why should I leave my grueling job to come to my little peace of heaven and let myself get put through hell? You can't beat understanding into someone. There comes a time when you have to realize, this is not in your control and it's time to let it go. jmho, as always.