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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 347347" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Well said D and Jones!</p><p></p><p>D, your 2nd paragraph in your last post was an excellent point but sadly those principles are completely lost IMO on those who called themselves "conservative" as they've come to be driven by fear ie a democrat gets elected over the importance of maintaining principle first. I'm amazed at even how not that long ago, McCain within conservative circles was the republican equal of Kennedy but today he's the 21st century Reagan and Goldwater combined if you listen ot some. I'm sure by the time the vote takes place in Nov. that many here will have convinced themselves of that in order to sanctify their vote.</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /></p><p></p><p>Friday, on my way into work, the radio on the FM side was boring (no good metal or jazz) so I flipped to the AM and started surfing and just in pure chance I happened across Limbaugh's show as a 15 year old called in. Regardless of his politics, I just enjoyed his rebellious spirit of going against the grain of his High School. I like it anytime someone in a minority forces the issue with any majority because it's so easy for a majority to move itself from what is truth and right to instead what it desires. Besides, if any majority has truth, it should welcome any opportunity to prove that truth.</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, in light of you 2nd paragraph above, take a few moments to read the transcript and then look at the response that Limbaugh gave to this kid. This is the guy whole told the world on his show after it became clear that McCain had it locked up, that he was not a republican but rather conservative first and would adhere to those principles going forward. But before this conversation between Rush and this 15 year, consider Rush on McCain back in Jan. and Feb.</p><p></p><p>Example of the great one speaking on McCain in Feb.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4240297" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><strong>http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4240297</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p>or this transcript from Rush's show a meer few weeks before the above video above was made of Rush on his show.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_013008/content/01125111.guest.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><strong>http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_013008/content/01125111.guest.html</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p>This 15 year old and his friends are starting to figure this thing out but Rush does the kneejerk and all he can to reel him back onto the reservation when the dreaded "3rd" party gets mentioned.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_053008/content/01125109.guest.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><strong>http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_053008/content/01125109.guest.html</strong></span></a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sounds to me like Rush did a nice job of being a good example of holding principles in front of this kid! Rush said nothing wrong about the chances of any 3rd party and for the most part he is right but if there is no 3rd party option, where is he really steering this kid? Right back in the loving arms of the evil Rockerfeller Republicans he just bad mouthed to the kid.</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/happy-very.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":happy-very:" title="Happy Very :happy-very:" data-shortname=":happy-very:" /> It comes down to the meaning of stupidity being that you do the same failing thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Why should the "Rockerfeller" republicans change their ways so to speak when so many goes to the polls and perform as expected.</p><p></p><p>And Jones, like you, I also enjoy Greenwald from Salon and I saw this earlier this week and in light of McClellan's comments in his book toward the press, I enjoyed Greenwald's piece. In case you missed it I wanted to pass it on.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000"><strong><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100303212323/http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/28/gibson/index.html" target="_blank">https://web.archive.org/web/20100303212323/http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/28/gibson/index.html</a></strong></span></p><p></p><p>When you have a free hour (more like 57 minutes) watch the video link at the "SPIN" thread. Even though 15 plus years old, it's very revealing about the so-called "free press" and maybe a bit of our belief in that the press and gov't are seperate entities!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 347347, member: 2189"] Well said D and Jones! D, your 2nd paragraph in your last post was an excellent point but sadly those principles are completely lost IMO on those who called themselves "conservative" as they've come to be driven by fear ie a democrat gets elected over the importance of maintaining principle first. I'm amazed at even how not that long ago, McCain within conservative circles was the republican equal of Kennedy but today he's the 21st century Reagan and Goldwater combined if you listen ot some. I'm sure by the time the vote takes place in Nov. that many here will have convinced themselves of that in order to sanctify their vote. :happy-very: Friday, on my way into work, the radio on the FM side was boring (no good metal or jazz) so I flipped to the AM and started surfing and just in pure chance I happened across Limbaugh's show as a 15 year old called in. Regardless of his politics, I just enjoyed his rebellious spirit of going against the grain of his High School. I like it anytime someone in a minority forces the issue with any majority because it's so easy for a majority to move itself from what is truth and right to instead what it desires. Besides, if any majority has truth, it should welcome any opportunity to prove that truth. Anyhow, in light of you 2nd paragraph above, take a few moments to read the transcript and then look at the response that Limbaugh gave to this kid. This is the guy whole told the world on his show after it became clear that McCain had it locked up, that he was not a republican but rather conservative first and would adhere to those principles going forward. But before this conversation between Rush and this 15 year, consider Rush on McCain back in Jan. and Feb. Example of the great one speaking on McCain in Feb. [URL='http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4240297'][COLOR=red][B]http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=4240297[/B][/COLOR][/URL] or this transcript from Rush's show a meer few weeks before the above video above was made of Rush on his show. [URL='http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_013008/content/01125111.guest.html'][COLOR=red][B]http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_013008/content/01125111.guest.html[/B][/COLOR][/URL] This 15 year old and his friends are starting to figure this thing out but Rush does the kneejerk and all he can to reel him back onto the reservation when the dreaded "3rd" party gets mentioned. [URL='http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_053008/content/01125109.guest.html'][COLOR=red][B]http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_053008/content/01125109.guest.html[/B][/COLOR][/URL] Sounds to me like Rush did a nice job of being a good example of holding principles in front of this kid! Rush said nothing wrong about the chances of any 3rd party and for the most part he is right but if there is no 3rd party option, where is he really steering this kid? Right back in the loving arms of the evil Rockerfeller Republicans he just bad mouthed to the kid. :happy-very: It comes down to the meaning of stupidity being that you do the same failing thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Why should the "Rockerfeller" republicans change their ways so to speak when so many goes to the polls and perform as expected. And Jones, like you, I also enjoy Greenwald from Salon and I saw this earlier this week and in light of McClellan's comments in his book toward the press, I enjoyed Greenwald's piece. In case you missed it I wanted to pass it on. [COLOR=#ff0000][B][URL]https://web.archive.org/web/20100303212323/http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/28/gibson/index.html[/URL][/B][/COLOR] When you have a free hour (more like 57 minutes) watch the video link at the "SPIN" thread. Even though 15 plus years old, it's very revealing about the so-called "free press" and maybe a bit of our belief in that the press and gov't are seperate entities! [/QUOTE]
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