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<blockquote data-quote="canon" data-source="post: 168966" data-attributes="member: 8423"><p>Like I've said, you're confusing "preconditions of ending occupation" with "responsibilities of the Occupying Power" which are derived from the hague and geneva conventions. Our responsibilities become conditions if that's how you want to look at it:</p><p></p><p><u>Responsibility</u>: One of the responsibilities of the belligerent is to restore and ensure the safety of the populace. (Govt and functioning security force)</p><p><u>Condition</u>: <em>Once that condition is met</em>, we can leave without endangering the population. It's the same thing, we have to protect the civilians.</p><p></p><p>I only know how to say it in english and I'm sorry you can't see the difference. Add to the list of those in support of my position and who <strong>do</strong> see the difference:</p><p></p><p>A couple of clips from the United Nations.</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Source: <a href="http://www.un.org/ga/president/57/pages/speeches/statement030728-EastTimorUniversity-print.htm" target="_blank">Untitled Document</a></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">Source: <a href="http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2003/sc7696.doc.htm" target="_blank">IMPORTANCE OF HUMANITARIAN AID FOR IRAQ STRESSED, AS SECURITY COUNCIL MEMBERS VOICE DIFFERENT VIEWS ON DISARMAMENT PROCESS</a></span></p><p></p><p>"Protection" doesn't end when the shelling stops. It is our responsibility to <strong>restore and ensure</strong> the safety of the civilians, both during the fighting <em>and as a result of our actions</em> as per international law. And that can't be done without returning a <em>functioning</em> government and <em>capable</em> security force. As soon as that happens, <em>then</em> we can pack our bags.</p><p></p><p>Exactly as I've been saying. I believe this is checkmate. Post your sources or tuck your tail. If it were me, the only way I see out of this is to graciously admit defeat and try to salvage what's left of your dignity. We should play again, after you've recovered.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="canon, post: 168966, member: 8423"] Like I've said, you're confusing "preconditions of ending occupation" with "responsibilities of the Occupying Power" which are derived from the hague and geneva conventions. Our responsibilities become conditions if that's how you want to look at it: [U]Responsibility[/U]: One of the responsibilities of the belligerent is to restore and ensure the safety of the populace. (Govt and functioning security force) [U]Condition[/U]: [I]Once that condition is met[/I], we can leave without endangering the population. It's the same thing, we have to protect the civilians. I only know how to say it in english and I'm sorry you can't see the difference. Add to the list of those in support of my position and who [B]do[/B] see the difference: A couple of clips from the United Nations. [SIZE=1]Source: [URL='http://www.un.org/ga/president/57/pages/speeches/statement030728-EastTimorUniversity-print.htm']Untitled Document[/URL][/SIZE] [SIZE=1]Source: [URL='http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2003/sc7696.doc.htm']IMPORTANCE OF HUMANITARIAN AID FOR IRAQ STRESSED, AS SECURITY COUNCIL MEMBERS VOICE DIFFERENT VIEWS ON DISARMAMENT PROCESS[/URL][/SIZE] "Protection" doesn't end when the shelling stops. It is our responsibility to [B]restore and ensure[/B] the safety of the civilians, both during the fighting [I]and as a result of our actions[/I] as per international law. And that can't be done without returning a [I]functioning[/I] government and [I]capable[/I] security force. As soon as that happens, [I]then[/I] we can pack our bags. Exactly as I've been saying. I believe this is checkmate. Post your sources or tuck your tail. If it were me, the only way I see out of this is to graciously admit defeat and try to salvage what's left of your dignity. We should play again, after you've recovered. [/QUOTE]
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