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<blockquote data-quote="Ironshot" data-source="post: 133877" data-attributes="member: 6881"><p>Wdworker, </p><p> Damn, do you worry about everything as you seem to worry on whether or not the APWA could successfully rep for you and all of us on the frieght side?</p><p> If you truly worry to such a degree, we would love to hear your concerns regarding the IBT that doesn't deserve your dues now. Starting this Jan. 2007 the new pension funding clock is ticking for the unfunded pension funds.</p><p>These funds have seven years to come up to 90 %. And membership continues to decline. Even UPSF employees aren't but a drop in the bucket.</p><p>We have no reason to jump off into the financial abyss. Just people like Local whom states "I Vote Teamster"! Like I said; "Stupid is as Stupid Does"</p><p>APWA, when it takes control, will be responsible for your pension check. Where does that money come from? It would come from the Pension plan that your employers pays into right now. West, Central, East etc. That's the reality the Teamsters and agents don't like. The courts and then the Feds will mandate the funds be transferred to the APWA pension Accounts. As I see it you just may get all the money sent in your name not just 60% of it as it seems to be the norm. Or Less if the Pension plan can't get funded in 7 yrs. Stop thinking the IBT is or wanting to help you, like hoofa said the other day "friend... you all"! He'd sell you and anyone else for his benefit. Do some research on your own. You get friend...ed by UPS without </p><p>representation, and you choose to stay with a organization that friend...s you</p><p>regularily? Question is could the APWA be any worse? Since the founders</p><p>Van and Danny are your own I'd say they too are tired of taking it twice. Just a guess? Hence the APWA was created. Work smart not hard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ironshot, post: 133877, member: 6881"] Wdworker, Damn, do you worry about everything as you seem to worry on whether or not the APWA could successfully rep for you and all of us on the frieght side? If you truly worry to such a degree, we would love to hear your concerns regarding the IBT that doesn't deserve your dues now. Starting this Jan. 2007 the new pension funding clock is ticking for the unfunded pension funds. These funds have seven years to come up to 90 %. And membership continues to decline. Even UPSF employees aren't but a drop in the bucket. We have no reason to jump off into the financial abyss. Just people like Local whom states "I Vote Teamster"! Like I said; "Stupid is as Stupid Does" APWA, when it takes control, will be responsible for your pension check. Where does that money come from? It would come from the Pension plan that your employers pays into right now. West, Central, East etc. That's the reality the Teamsters and agents don't like. The courts and then the Feds will mandate the funds be transferred to the APWA pension Accounts. As I see it you just may get all the money sent in your name not just 60% of it as it seems to be the norm. Or Less if the Pension plan can't get funded in 7 yrs. Stop thinking the IBT is or wanting to help you, like hoofa said the other day "friend... you all"! He'd sell you and anyone else for his benefit. Do some research on your own. You get friend...ed by UPS without representation, and you choose to stay with a organization that friend...s you regularily? Question is could the APWA be any worse? Since the founders Van and Danny are your own I'd say they too are tired of taking it twice. Just a guess? Hence the APWA was created. Work smart not hard. [/QUOTE]
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