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<blockquote data-quote="SandBagger" data-source="post: 238148" data-attributes="member: 11242"><p>Buckethead wrote:</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>You go on believing you aren't part of our company (UPS) and you will soon find out exactly what Cole meant about a leopard not changing it's spots. Around 90 days prior to our contract time I'm betting you guys will be "indoctrinated" more fully into our scope of operations and prepared to assume our Feeder schedules if the need arises. You guys are the perfect "double-breasting" element already, just waiting to be mobilized. </p><p> </p><p>The only thing separating us is the precise nature of the freight we haul and that difference is already being eroded slowly but surely. UPS Package Division is increasingly turning into a heavy freight operation separated primarily by the narrowly defined LTL and single package monikers. In case you are unaware, our hundredweight service (among others) has been stealing revenue from freight companies for years and building a customer base all the while. What would normally be palletized freight is broken down to single units, shipped and delivered, to the same consignee on normally the same day. This typically consists of what we call "irregs" or "hardware" and is run through our operation by a distinctly different process. You too will eventually be integrated as a group into the UPS business model, like it or not. Why even now, your drivers are being used to pick up empty trailers at UPS facilities. That shuttle work (as a matter of past practice) has traditionally been UPS Feeder work performed by bargaining unit employees. My understanding is that Teamsters says so long as the trailers are pulled outside the gates of the facility and dropped there is no issue if the UPS Freight guys pick them up there. That my friend is erroneous because it takes hours and hours of work away from the drivers who would normally deliver those empties to their destination. Matter of fact, if you analyze it more closely, what I just described is a "meet" exchange between UPS Feeders and UPS Freight for the purpose of advancing the progress of the empty container. Strange that Teamster Leaders don't agree however....maybe my logic is flawed!</p><p> </p><p>Anyway, I think you are a bit short-sighted if you think all you guys have is two choices - Teamsters or nothing. I do agree however that if you decide not to be represented by APWA that their leadership should move on and leave you alone. Unfortunately sometimes (as is apparently the case in KC) the employer plays dirty pool and illegally infulences the outcome of the vote. Then of course there are other external factors working hard to skew the results as well...i.e. the Teamsters attack on APWA outside the KC walls when they didn't even have a place on the ballot. It really worries me when I see the Company and the Teamsters working so hard for the same outcome, and I hope you see the implications as well. At any rate, when something unlawful is done it neccessitates a legal challenge to prevent it from recurring. That is an unfortunate truth that KC employees will have to deal with however it is represented.</p><p> </p><p>Either way, good luck to you guys in Freight and I hope whatever tack you choose works out for you! As time moves forward you're certainly gonna see exactly what kind of outfit you're really working for, and it ain't gonna make you do a Mexican hat dance! Well, maybe it will, but that's another story just now crossing the border and heading our way.....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SandBagger, post: 238148, member: 11242"] Buckethead wrote: You go on believing you aren't part of our company (UPS) and you will soon find out exactly what Cole meant about a leopard not changing it's spots. Around 90 days prior to our contract time I'm betting you guys will be "indoctrinated" more fully into our scope of operations and prepared to assume our Feeder schedules if the need arises. You guys are the perfect "double-breasting" element already, just waiting to be mobilized. The only thing separating us is the precise nature of the freight we haul and that difference is already being eroded slowly but surely. UPS Package Division is increasingly turning into a heavy freight operation separated primarily by the narrowly defined LTL and single package monikers. In case you are unaware, our hundredweight service (among others) has been stealing revenue from freight companies for years and building a customer base all the while. What would normally be palletized freight is broken down to single units, shipped and delivered, to the same consignee on normally the same day. This typically consists of what we call "irregs" or "hardware" and is run through our operation by a distinctly different process. You too will eventually be integrated as a group into the UPS business model, like it or not. Why even now, your drivers are being used to pick up empty trailers at UPS facilities. That shuttle work (as a matter of past practice) has traditionally been UPS Feeder work performed by bargaining unit employees. My understanding is that Teamsters says so long as the trailers are pulled outside the gates of the facility and dropped there is no issue if the UPS Freight guys pick them up there. That my friend is erroneous because it takes hours and hours of work away from the drivers who would normally deliver those empties to their destination. Matter of fact, if you analyze it more closely, what I just described is a "meet" exchange between UPS Feeders and UPS Freight for the purpose of advancing the progress of the empty container. Strange that Teamster Leaders don't agree however....maybe my logic is flawed! Anyway, I think you are a bit short-sighted if you think all you guys have is two choices - Teamsters or nothing. I do agree however that if you decide not to be represented by APWA that their leadership should move on and leave you alone. Unfortunately sometimes (as is apparently the case in KC) the employer plays dirty pool and illegally infulences the outcome of the vote. Then of course there are other external factors working hard to skew the results as well...i.e. the Teamsters attack on APWA outside the KC walls when they didn't even have a place on the ballot. It really worries me when I see the Company and the Teamsters working so hard for the same outcome, and I hope you see the implications as well. At any rate, when something unlawful is done it neccessitates a legal challenge to prevent it from recurring. That is an unfortunate truth that KC employees will have to deal with however it is represented. Either way, good luck to you guys in Freight and I hope whatever tack you choose works out for you! As time moves forward you're certainly gonna see exactly what kind of outfit you're really working for, and it ain't gonna make you do a Mexican hat dance! Well, maybe it will, but that's another story just now crossing the border and heading our way..... [/QUOTE]
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