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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 214432" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>That is the very reason why I think it's possible for this scenario to take place at some point. Also when the name of Hitler is invoked, it's natural to think mostly of the millions, specifically jews, who were killed by this madman. I'm not sure this type of scenario would come into play but who knows how people will react in crisis. </p><p> </p><p>One of our downfalls IMO is that we have such a diverse culture who's loyalities are literally all over the map. We as a culture to some degree have no root common ground or bond that we all can rally around that makes us strong and keeps us strong. As many variables involved in the downfall of Rome, they had conquered so many which caused them to absord so much in the way of diversity that when the empire became truly threatened, people's cultural loyalities lay elsewhere and the attempt to rally the people behind Roman patriotism and Roman glory was met with almost silence across the realm. Why should we scarifice ourselves for the benefit of Rome itself? </p><p> </p><p>In another perspective, why should a town in East Wherever USA scarifice itself for Washington DC? Why does town or State "A" get choosen and benefit over town or State "B" when federal taxdollars are earmarked for income redistribution? Yeah folks, your gov't is fully engaged in one of Karl Marx's key points of centralization and collective creation. We are Borg! Resistance if futile! </p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/tongue_smilie.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":tongue_sm" title="Tongue Smilie :tongue_sm" data-shortname=":tongue_sm" /></p><p>Why should town or State "B" have it's tax dollars from the local folks hardwork be taken and used to the benefit town of State "A"? More votes for the party in power if you look at the demographics of the earmark spending patterns. </p><p> </p><p>However, there is irony in that our diversity is also our saving grace in this Hitler potential scenario as well because it would make it very hard for a Hitler like figure to emerge as a unifying force. In a very real sense, no one would have an upperhand but you just never can tell how people will react when in crisis just as I'm sure if Germany could have seen the outcome in 1945', it would have far outweighed the thoughts at the time on the ills of the Treaty of Versailles and a different election outcome in 1933' may have taken place in Germany. </p><p> </p><p>History is loaded with example after example of very good, descent and otherwise everyday folk voting, backing, supporting a leadership figure that takes the blame of society's ills and places it somewhere else to make the masses feel better about themselves and in turn the mentality of this wonderous leader is to powerful to resist power and the rest is history as they say.</p><p> </p><p>I find the current immigration debate of interest in that if some wellspoken, charismatic figure could emerge and unite both African American and Whites in this country behind that cause then with so much damage to the limiting factor and protections of the Constitution having been eroded, there's no telling what could spring to life that we never thought possible. When the Berlin wall was built and existed, if you suggested a wall also be built on the American border the masses would have thought and openly labeled you a Stalinist, Atheistic communist but today you are evoked in many circles that had been staunchly anti-communist as some kind of modern day hero for for championing that very cause. </p><p> </p><p>And don't discount this growing black/white unification either because there is a growing concern among African Americans about the illegal immigration issue to the point that African American gangs are starting to hotline police about Hispanic gang activities leading to arrests. It's a growing trend and who'd have ever thunk it!</p><p> </p><p>But let's hope at the end of the day we've learned from history but sadly learning from history we also have a bad habit of repeating it! Example? Let's build our own Berlin Wall!</p><p> </p><p>So much for my attempt at closing on an optimistic note!</p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Lol :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p> </p><p>Towerly,</p><p> </p><p>It's a breathe of fresh air to see someone like yourself express concerns over the growing power and scope of gov't. Big thanks to you on that!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 214432, member: 2189"] That is the very reason why I think it's possible for this scenario to take place at some point. Also when the name of Hitler is invoked, it's natural to think mostly of the millions, specifically jews, who were killed by this madman. I'm not sure this type of scenario would come into play but who knows how people will react in crisis. One of our downfalls IMO is that we have such a diverse culture who's loyalities are literally all over the map. We as a culture to some degree have no root common ground or bond that we all can rally around that makes us strong and keeps us strong. As many variables involved in the downfall of Rome, they had conquered so many which caused them to absord so much in the way of diversity that when the empire became truly threatened, people's cultural loyalities lay elsewhere and the attempt to rally the people behind Roman patriotism and Roman glory was met with almost silence across the realm. Why should we scarifice ourselves for the benefit of Rome itself? In another perspective, why should a town in East Wherever USA scarifice itself for Washington DC? Why does town or State "A" get choosen and benefit over town or State "B" when federal taxdollars are earmarked for income redistribution? Yeah folks, your gov't is fully engaged in one of Karl Marx's key points of centralization and collective creation. We are Borg! Resistance if futile! :tongue_sm Why should town or State "B" have it's tax dollars from the local folks hardwork be taken and used to the benefit town of State "A"? More votes for the party in power if you look at the demographics of the earmark spending patterns. However, there is irony in that our diversity is also our saving grace in this Hitler potential scenario as well because it would make it very hard for a Hitler like figure to emerge as a unifying force. In a very real sense, no one would have an upperhand but you just never can tell how people will react when in crisis just as I'm sure if Germany could have seen the outcome in 1945', it would have far outweighed the thoughts at the time on the ills of the Treaty of Versailles and a different election outcome in 1933' may have taken place in Germany. History is loaded with example after example of very good, descent and otherwise everyday folk voting, backing, supporting a leadership figure that takes the blame of society's ills and places it somewhere else to make the masses feel better about themselves and in turn the mentality of this wonderous leader is to powerful to resist power and the rest is history as they say. I find the current immigration debate of interest in that if some wellspoken, charismatic figure could emerge and unite both African American and Whites in this country behind that cause then with so much damage to the limiting factor and protections of the Constitution having been eroded, there's no telling what could spring to life that we never thought possible. When the Berlin wall was built and existed, if you suggested a wall also be built on the American border the masses would have thought and openly labeled you a Stalinist, Atheistic communist but today you are evoked in many circles that had been staunchly anti-communist as some kind of modern day hero for for championing that very cause. And don't discount this growing black/white unification either because there is a growing concern among African Americans about the illegal immigration issue to the point that African American gangs are starting to hotline police about Hispanic gang activities leading to arrests. It's a growing trend and who'd have ever thunk it! But let's hope at the end of the day we've learned from history but sadly learning from history we also have a bad habit of repeating it! Example? Let's build our own Berlin Wall! So much for my attempt at closing on an optimistic note! :lol: Towerly, It's a breathe of fresh air to see someone like yourself express concerns over the growing power and scope of gov't. Big thanks to you on that! [/QUOTE]
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