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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1166397" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>So you are admitting the all powerful, all knowing, all present god who according to you created the heavens and the earth and all that are in them as needing some earthbound, fallen, sin nature humans to in effect correct his failures?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If god is a failure, if god must rely on fallen man to explain/defend his divine communication to us, then he is not perfect. A perfect god could effect perfect understanding in anyone at anytime. An apologist means the message is confusing and needs an intercessor to correct. Is god incapable of granting each of us perfect understanding of his divine will and truth?</p><p></p><p> If he's not granting perfect understanding, he's sowing confusion. Confusion is to bring about disorder. Confusion results from something being hidden or in other words, god is <a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=occult&allowed_in_frame=0" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">occulting</span></a> the truth. This means god is not love nor is god even just. </p><p></p><p>If god in not perfect, is creating confusion and disorder, hiding (occulting) the real truth, how can he be the god of your bible who claims just the opposite?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1166397, member: 2189"] So you are admitting the all powerful, all knowing, all present god who according to you created the heavens and the earth and all that are in them as needing some earthbound, fallen, sin nature humans to in effect correct his failures? If god is a failure, if god must rely on fallen man to explain/defend his divine communication to us, then he is not perfect. A perfect god could effect perfect understanding in anyone at anytime. An apologist means the message is confusing and needs an intercessor to correct. Is god incapable of granting each of us perfect understanding of his divine will and truth? If he's not granting perfect understanding, he's sowing confusion. Confusion is to bring about disorder. Confusion results from something being hidden or in other words, god is [URL="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=occult&allowed_in_frame=0"][COLOR=#ff0000]occulting[/COLOR][/URL] the truth. This means god is not love nor is god even just. If god in not perfect, is creating confusion and disorder, hiding (occulting) the real truth, how can he be the god of your bible who claims just the opposite? [/QUOTE]
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