Attacked and bit by large dog today
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I too hope you are ok, its the trauma in your job afterwards that is the real pain. Hearing your own keys jingle, etc. Sounds like a loser. Probably like the one that bit me. Couldnt sue him, had no income or homeowners insurance. I lost two weeks of work, but it did not happen on the job, darn.
LOL, I did that more than once while delivering out in the country after dark. Hear that jingle, think it's a dog collar coming up behind ya, spin around in a 180 swinging the board, then realize it's just the keys on your little finger
Yeah, I've been bit a few times and it makes you nervous.
stevetheupsguy
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Ditto what they said.
I agree with tooner, as well. Your perception of dogs will forever be changed because of this knucklehead and his dog. "Bit you, huh", would have been the last thing he ever said with those teeth, if he still had any.
Re-Raise
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Anyone else ever notice that a dog's demeaner most of the time kind of mirrors that of the owner.
If the place is a dump and the owner is an a hole the dog is usually an out of control beast.
On the other hand the nicest people on your route have the labs that come up with their tails wagging to lick your hand.
I guess the same thing is sort of true about their kids, except for the hand licking thing.
If the place is a dump and the owner is an a hole the dog is usually an out of control beast.
On the other hand the nicest people on your route have the labs that come up with their tails wagging to lick your hand.
I guess the same thing is sort of true about their kids, except for the hand licking thing.
bigbrownhen
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Trashy house, yea watch for a nasty dog. If I haven't del to it before, I look for all the sighs., dog dishes, dog house, stuff chewed up and such. I have also been put back in the truck at very nice homes when they aren't home. Dog is a sweety when they are there, over-protective when they are not. They got a DR note left in the mailbox.
Sleeve, I hope you heal up soon. That looks terrible. Yea, get a good lawyer, hope the guy actually owns the house and isn't a renter with no insurance. The dog should be listed as aggressive by he police/animal control to say the least, and UPS should refuse to deliver to him.
Sleeve, I hope you heal up soon. That looks terrible. Yea, get a good lawyer, hope the guy actually owns the house and isn't a renter with no insurance. The dog should be listed as aggressive by he police/animal control to say the least, and UPS should refuse to deliver to him.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
If a dog is charging you and you know you are going to get bit, you want to try and get into a crouch in order to lower your center of gravity and then offer the dog your right forearm to lock onto.
If it locks onto your forearm, you can then bring your left arm behind its neck and push forward as hard as you can with your right arm while pulling towards you with the left. If you are strong enough, you can break the dogs neck. At the very least, you can get the dog up off the ground and force its head back at a painful and awkward angle this way.
If you are unable to break its neck, use the thumb of your free hand to dig the dogs eyeball out of its socket. If it doesnt let go after you pop one eye out, it will let go when you start in on the second one.
By giving the dog your forearm to lock onto, you are keeping it away from your face and neck. You just have to avoid panic, and accept the fact that you are going to get bit and it is going to hurt and you are going to bleed. The main thing is to stay on your feet, dont let it get you down on the ground, and dont let it get your face or neck.
If it locks onto your forearm, you can then bring your left arm behind its neck and push forward as hard as you can with your right arm while pulling towards you with the left. If you are strong enough, you can break the dogs neck. At the very least, you can get the dog up off the ground and force its head back at a painful and awkward angle this way.
If you are unable to break its neck, use the thumb of your free hand to dig the dogs eyeball out of its socket. If it doesnt let go after you pop one eye out, it will let go when you start in on the second one.
By giving the dog your forearm to lock onto, you are keeping it away from your face and neck. You just have to avoid panic, and accept the fact that you are going to get bit and it is going to hurt and you are going to bleed. The main thing is to stay on your feet, dont let it get you down on the ground, and dont let it get your face or neck.
UnconTROLLed
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I finished the route bleeding and then went back to ctr, washed it out, took pics. Went to Health stop and then ER because health stop wouldn't take me. After ER in SNH cleaned it up and the doctor actually called the police department! I didn't want to give the wrong address or bad info, so I was released and I drove another hour BACK onto area with my fiance and right back to the house it happened. I made sure it was the right one, then went to the police station with the ER records.
PD said they'll contact me Monday after the holiday and follow up about the rabies deal. I'm definitly going to give them the lowdown on the dog and owner!!! I'm so angry, my legs throbbing and I can't sleep.
Apparently the dog needs to be checked for 10 consecutive days for rabies.
UnconTROLLed
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LOL Good one there Jones
Thank you, that's the avenue I'm trying first. I think that each local has different representation available so I'll call the union hall Monday when I go on a rampage.
Ditto what they said.
I agree with tooner, as well. Your perception of dogs will forever be changed because of this knucklehead and his dog. "Bit you, huh", would have been the last thing he ever said with those teeth, if he still had any.
If it wasn't a UPS uniform and vehicle, things would have been handled much different. I would have been me rather than pro UPS guy :/
You're 100% right. The house is a junkyard in the back and the man was absolutely callous, he just ran inside with it. That was my first thought, the dogs is attitude just an extension of owners.
Thank you, I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure it isn't someones 5 year olds face the dog latches onto next time..
If I wasn't in uniform, things may have been different. I'm not sure I could harm an animal like that unless it was trying to kill me.
One time I did have a rotweiller try to jump a fence and kill me by biting my face/throat. I was able to close a gate just fast enough on the dogs shoulders. The dog was almost able to climb/ jump the 6' fence even after I kicked him backwards and closed it! That's the type of instance where I would have tried to save my life by self defense.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
Whether I am wearing a uniform or not is irrelevant. I dont want to get bitten and I will take whatever action I deem necessary to protect myself.
Obviously, the action I take will be determined in part by the size of the dog. If the dog is a pitbull, doberman, rottweiler, German Shepherd, chow, or other LARGE dog....I will not hesitate to use lethal force if I need to. I love dogs, but I also love my throat and my face and I'm not going to allow myself to get maimed or killed.
Richard Harrow
Deplorable.
Take the ******* for all he is worth. I had a lady do the same exact thing on a route I was covering a few years ago. They supposedly had an "electronic fence", but if they did, it certainly had no effect on the dog. He bolted right to the curb and gave me a nip. So the customer comes out and plays it off like it didn't happen despite her being in the doorway and watching me step to the curb. I didn't get seriously injured, it was one of those little annoying ankle-biters that really don't qualify as dogs in my mind; there wasn't even a puncture really, just some scrapes or whatever. I went down the road, cleaned it up, called my supervisor to report, etc.
A few weeks later I have another package for this residence. Once again, here's dog wandering the property. So after sounding the horn on the truck and waiting a minute or two, nobody comes out. I proceed to indirect the package across the street. I get back to the building and there is a concern for me asking why I didn't bring the package to the house. I told the OMS to tell the lady that she knows exactly why I took it across the street (citing the incident from a few weeks previous), and if she wanted, I'd be happy to bring future deliveries to her house, but the safety of her dog would not be guaranteed. Not sure if the OMS told her all of what I said, but I do know I haven't seen the dog in the 5 or so years since that concern.
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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NW, in hindsight, perhaps you should have written something to the effect of "Pkg del to ## due to your dog. If you have any questions call the center" and then followed that up with an ODS explaining why you indirected her pkg.
Did your center manager back you and dismiss the concern?
Did your center manager back you and dismiss the concern?
Re-Raise
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This last February I had a delivery for a nice farm house on my route. They have 4 good size dogs that go nuts when I pull in.
I can get my package car about ten feet from a covered porch by pulling all the way up to the garage.
I honk the horn and if no one comes out I have called them on my cell from the driveway to tell them to come out to the truck.
On this day the lady came to the porch and stood there and said they just bark at the truck they won't bite.
I took her at her word and just walked by them like they weren't there. About two steps later a wiemeriener or something like that latches onto the back of my leg.
I swung the board around and nailed him on the side of his head and he took off running.
It was still cold out so I had pants and long johns on so the bite was more of a mouth size pinch than a puncture. It still bled and scabbed up and surprisingly left a pretty good scar.
I got pretty pissed at the lady , not so much because I was hurt but more so because she was too lazy to walk the ten feet to my truck. She started crying and really felt bad.
I deliver to the area I grew up in and everyone knows me and everyone knows her and I have been told by freinds and family of her's that she really felt bad about it but still I wish people wouldn't put us in that situation.
I can get my package car about ten feet from a covered porch by pulling all the way up to the garage.
I honk the horn and if no one comes out I have called them on my cell from the driveway to tell them to come out to the truck.
On this day the lady came to the porch and stood there and said they just bark at the truck they won't bite.
I took her at her word and just walked by them like they weren't there. About two steps later a wiemeriener or something like that latches onto the back of my leg.
I swung the board around and nailed him on the side of his head and he took off running.
It was still cold out so I had pants and long johns on so the bite was more of a mouth size pinch than a puncture. It still bled and scabbed up and surprisingly left a pretty good scar.
I got pretty pissed at the lady , not so much because I was hurt but more so because she was too lazy to walk the ten feet to my truck. She started crying and really felt bad.
I deliver to the area I grew up in and everyone knows me and everyone knows her and I have been told by freinds and family of her's that she really felt bad about it but still I wish people wouldn't put us in that situation.
trouble maker
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Years ago when we still had Dell, I had to get a signature at a house and asked that the man put the dog in another room (nasty lab). Told him I didn't want to get bit, and he said to me, " There's a first time for everything". I walked back to the pc with dell in hand. Made him come to the pc. Piece of ****!!!
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
Sleeve, read this thread. http://www.browncafe.com/forum/f6/badly-bitten-dog-while-getting-signature-owner-329707/ There is a lot of good information in here as well as what has already been said. Talk to your local, see what legal services are available. Follow up with animal control to make sure the dog has been quarantined and see if there are any charges to press (IE: vicious dog). We have the same rights as any public service agency to be on the property. The property owner has the responsibility to make sure we are safe on their property. Home owners insurance will likely pay a claim outside of court. They will also likely drop the owner as an insured after the claim. Hope everything turns out well for you.
soberups
Pees in the brown Koolaid
The company or its insurance company is free to press its own lawsuit against the owner of the dog, since the injury occured on the job and the medical expenses are paid by UPS or its workmans comp carrier.
A suit filed by the driver would be for additional pain and suffering.
