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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 369218" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p><span style="color: blue">another one the claim his funding is coming from the internet is contradicted by this point:</span></p><p></p><p><strong>CHARGE 32</strong> - “I don’t have ‘bundlers’ and I don’t take PAC money.”</p><p><strong>EVIDENCE</strong> - Senator Obama has 79 bundlers and has collected over $13,000,000 in lobbyist PAC money. </p><p><strong>COUNTER CLAIM</strong> - Senator Obama has been careful not to compromise himself, “rejecting campaign support from Political Action Committees and lobbyists.”</p><p><strong>REBUTTAL</strong> – Here is a starter list of Senator Obama’s registered lobbyists:</p><p>Timothy Broas $100,000, Frank Clark $200,000, Howard Gutman $200,000, Scott Harris (DC) $200,000, Allan Katz $200,000, William Lake (DC) $50,000, Robert S. Litt $not given, Kenneth Lore (DC) $50,000, Thomas Perrelli $200,000, Thomas Reed $200,000, Paul Roth $50,000, Alan Solomont $100,000, Robert M. Sussman (DC) $50,000, Tom Wheeler (DC) $100,000. $1,700,000 dollars from these registered lobbyists, or four times more than Obama’s officially declared lobbyist sum. To date there are at least 38 such individual lobbyists donating to Senator Obama’s campaign. PS – Having the wives of these individuals write the checks does not alter where the money came from</p><p></p><p><span style="color: blue">and this one:</span></p><p></p><p><u><strong>CHARGE 33</strong></u> - “I don’t take money from lobbyists.”</p><p><strong>EVIDENCE</strong> - At least 38 Individuals on Senator Obama’s campaign are or work for lobbyists. </p><p><strong>COUNTER CLAIM</strong> – Most of the individuals you site are lawyers, not lobbyists.</p><p><strong>REBUTTAL</strong> – Most of the lawyers that make up this list work for firms that lobby the Government. 31 of them manage registered lobbyists. You may parse the definitions – these lawyers and/or their firms lobby the government and donate to Senator Obama’s campaign. Either way, he takes money from lobbyists</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 369218, member: 1912"] [COLOR=blue]another one the claim his funding is coming from the internet is contradicted by this point:[/COLOR] [B]CHARGE 32[/B] - “I don’t have ‘bundlers’ and I don’t take PAC money.” [B]EVIDENCE[/B] - Senator Obama has 79 bundlers and has collected over $13,000,000 in lobbyist PAC money. [B]COUNTER CLAIM[/B] - Senator Obama has been careful not to compromise himself, “rejecting campaign support from Political Action Committees and lobbyists.” [B]REBUTTAL[/B] – Here is a starter list of Senator Obama’s registered lobbyists: Timothy Broas $100,000, Frank Clark $200,000, Howard Gutman $200,000, Scott Harris (DC) $200,000, Allan Katz $200,000, William Lake (DC) $50,000, Robert S. Litt $not given, Kenneth Lore (DC) $50,000, Thomas Perrelli $200,000, Thomas Reed $200,000, Paul Roth $50,000, Alan Solomont $100,000, Robert M. Sussman (DC) $50,000, Tom Wheeler (DC) $100,000. $1,700,000 dollars from these registered lobbyists, or four times more than Obama’s officially declared lobbyist sum. To date there are at least 38 such individual lobbyists donating to Senator Obama’s campaign. PS – Having the wives of these individuals write the checks does not alter where the money came from [COLOR=blue]and this one:[/COLOR] [U][B]CHARGE 33[/B][/U] - “I don’t take money from lobbyists.” [B]EVIDENCE[/B] - At least 38 Individuals on Senator Obama’s campaign are or work for lobbyists. [B]COUNTER CLAIM[/B] – Most of the individuals you site are lawyers, not lobbyists. [B]REBUTTAL[/B] – Most of the lawyers that make up this list work for firms that lobby the Government. 31 of them manage registered lobbyists. You may parse the definitions – these lawyers and/or their firms lobby the government and donate to Senator Obama’s campaign. Either way, he takes money from lobbyists [/QUOTE]
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