Becoming package car driver

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Drloudpac, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. Drloudpac

    Drloudpac New Member

    I have worked at ups for about 2 and a half years now as a p/t loader. My ultimate goal is to eventually become a package car driver. I was wondering what the approxamite time (years) that is required to become a driver, and how much full time years influences that? I don't very much like loading and the soreness from the work but it seems like sticking it out would be worth it at this point.
     
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  2. serenity now

    serenity now Guest

    once again, this is entirely dependent on your building * so ask some of your coworkers * the range of answers to that question from the BC community will be: 3 months - well over 10 years
     
  3. LongTimeComing

    LongTimeComing Air Ops Pro

    The wait changes from location to location. Some places it's 5 years. Others it's 15 years. You need to talk to HR about that as you probably won't find that answer here. I'm not sure what you are meaning by "full time years" influencing your wait time...

    If you don' like loading for 3.5 hours because it makes you sore, what makes you think package car driving is going to change things? You are going to be just as sore, if not more, from driving.
     
  4. upsgrunt

    upsgrunt Well-Known Member

    If you're still sore after 2.5 years of loading, you're not gonna like driving much better.

    Sorry LTC- I was posting the same time as you.
     
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  5. LongTimeComing

    LongTimeComing Air Ops Pro

    Next thing you'll hear, is how he disgusted because he is 'deciding' that he is over-dispatched....that he's tired of management giving him crap for running 2 hours over every day, how he works through lunch, etc etc etc.

    This apparent inability to deal with the physicality of the job will one day morph into managements fault...
     
  6. serenity now

    serenity now Guest

    don't talk to HR; ask someone that knows
    ask a few of the junior drivers what their wait time was
     
  7. serenity now

    serenity now Guest

    wrong thread, maybe?
     
  8. LongTimeComing

    LongTimeComing Air Ops Pro

    If dude can't handle being a loader for a few hours, there's no way in hell he's going to handle PC. That's more or less what I was trying to say.
     
  9. Notretiredyet

    Notretiredyet Active Member

    Whenever a PT tells me they're thinking about going into driving I tell them to apply for a SVD or PT air driver position. It's a good way to get a feel for what the job is about and to gain experience driving and using the DIAD. Then when a FT position does come up you'll have a fighting chance to gain seniority. Going straight into FT driving is a lot more difficult these days coming directly from an inside job, convinced my preloader last year to take the SVD job bid last summer that nobody wanted. It paid less than air driver wage but he took the cut in pay for the chance to gain experience and qualify to drive. When a permanent FT driver position came up in the fall he took it and was immediately qualified for the job, much to the surprise of the center manager who thought he could put him thru another 30 day qualifying period.
     
  10. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Does SVD stand for Substitute Vacation Driver? Here we call them casuals---drivers who are not FT and do not have a bid route. We do have one FT bid cover driver who works before any of the casuals work.
     
  11. serenity now

    serenity now Guest

    Next thing you'll hear, is how he disgusted.....

    just seemed like a major time leap to me
     
  12. Notretiredyet

    Notretiredyet Active Member

    Yes it does, we have a job bid each spring for that job, it pays less than an air driver in wages so none of them ever bid on it. We always have a difficult time getting someone to take this position due to its low wage, then they deny all our SVD days when we request them if it isn't bid. This issue is being discussed at negotiations, the wage needs to be raised as incentive to bid the position.
     
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    SVD days? Is this when you break your option week up in to individual days off? We don't have that up here---just personal/sick days and full vacation weeks.
     
  14. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    The best place to ask about how long the average wait time is either your local or the local HR folks. The larger the hub, the shorter wait you'll have. I started being a full time driver a month ago and out of the 8 people in the orientation I had the shortest wait of 3 years, 1 month because I was from a large hub. Others in the orientation were from smaller centers that had not hired a single driver in 7 years. One new driver had been waiting 9 years.
     
  15. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    If you have been at your building for 2.5 years and are not smart enough to know the answers to your questions, you should probably look for work elsewhere.
     
  16. serenity now

    serenity now Guest

    true, but c'mon, it's the guy's first post * take the high road
     
  17. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    A post that a simple search would have eliminated. How many times has this exact same topic been posted in the past couple of weeks????

    The OP needs to read more and post less.

    I triple dog dare you to go to a pick up forum and start a thread titled, "What is the best oil for my pickup??"

    See how that works for you.
     
  18. serenity now

    serenity now Guest

    are you an angry person?
     
  19. LongTimeComing

    LongTimeComing Air Ops Pro

    And the belittlement begins.
     
  20. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Generally, no.