Being denied going full time after 157 days?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Coop3902, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. Coop3902

    Coop3902 New Member

    I'm 4 days away from my 157 reports for this year. Change of operation occurred in our center and they say they will deny me going full time this year. Has anyone ever seen a similar situation? Is this possible for them to do?
     
  2. burrheadd

    burrheadd Superstar

    Sounds about right
     
  3. Coop3902

    Coop3902 New Member

    All the drivers in our center Say I should be fine, because of what it says in the union book, but I'm afraid there is something in there that could hold me back that I'm missing.
     
  4. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    The union book?
     
  5. Coop3902

    Coop3902 New Member

    Latest contract sorry. We are in the teamsters southern region if that makes a difference.
     
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  6. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    What is the change of opreations? Are you in multiple centers?
     
  7. Coop3902

    Coop3902 New Member

    We recently went from driver sort and load to a full blown part time preload. And no, just one center.
     
  8. tourists24

    tourists24 Well-Known Member

    Are u a teamster? If so my advice is to get a copy of your contract from a steward or BA. There is exact language covering change of operations
     
  9. Coop3902

    Coop3902 New Member

    Yes I am a teamster and our local union rep has given me a copy and gone through it with me, he says esp in the southern region supplement portion that it still should go through but I am of course concerned until we know for sure. Thanks for the help.
     
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  10. Coop3902

    Coop3902 New Member

    Edited to say teamster - not transfer
     
  11. jbg77

    jbg77 Active Member

    It could be your seniority. If you make the necessary reports they are supposed to create a full time job. This doesn't mean it would go to you it means it would go to the highest seniority pt'er in line.
     
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  12. BrownTexas

    BrownTexas Well-Known Member

    I agree with @jbg77. Just because you have the reports doesn't mean you get to go full time. You should get full time vacation the next year but it won't mean you get to go full time.
     
  13. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    The reports just create a new full time spot and gives you full time vacation. This spot is not automatically yours, somebody who has more classification seniority than you (any part time hub worker if you are technically a cover driver)

    So the guy who has been loading trucks for 6 years can decide he wants to go full time and if u have less seniority than him he gets the spot.
     
  14. Coop3902

    Coop3902 New Member

    We are a small center and I a
    Next in line seniority wise so hopefully it will work out.
     
  15. rkctkc

    rkctkc Member

    I could be wrong, but I think it used to be 200 reports to add a full time position. Doesn't necessarily mean it's your slot, just whoever is up next in seniority. 156 is only to determine vacation and option pay for next year. If you drove 156 and are part time, you will get tcd vacation and option pay next year.
     
  16. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    The 200 reports changed as of Jan. 1, 2014. It's 156 reports now.

    The contract says 156 reports and they must put on a full time position. Grieve it.

    Going to a preload is going to be a whole new world for you guys. Welcome to the real UPS.
     
  17. Coop3902

    Coop3902 New Member

    Preload is a disaster as of now hopefully it gets better soon haha
     
  18. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    The older guys are really gonna hate it...That'll be the end of putting stuff on another driver because you don't want to run it.
     
  19. clean hairy

    clean hairy Well-Known Member

    That does not mean the person who worked the 156 reports now has a full time position, does it?
    I guess it would mean a full time position is created and now up for bid, and the person who worked 156 reports is still part time?
    I dunno how that works.
     
  20. govols019

    govols019 You smell that?

    It goes up for bid to the highest seniority bidder...in this case, that would be the OP.