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<blockquote data-quote="ch317273" data-source="post: 1548687" data-attributes="member: 56865"><p>what that would teach them would be that nothing is free and you cant just be on assistance programs and sit home and not do anything but wait for a check, not that im saying everyone is like that, but the ones that are would be rooted out by doing something like that, BUT i dont think that is a viable solution not bc it doesnt make sense, it does, but i believe certain areas tried to do something years back, one was called something to the extent of "welfare mothers" or something, was a local program in the ny area that put women on welfare that were not on disability but were unemployed to work in parks cleaning and doing civil cleanup duties, the reason it failed i am told is civil service unions grieved that these women were taking work from unionized civil service workers, they had to dismantle the program....IMO i believe a piece of the puzzle of a solution here would be to put in place mandatory job searching, mandatory perhaps weekly sessions with a counselor or labor "officer" to ensure people are actively taking measures to not just stay stuck but to move in a forward direction towards either employment or school or work related training, and not just a "hey i got a job a mcdonalds", career jobs that would benefit the individual and their families.....like i said from the begining the system itself is insuffiecient, right now the legitimate people on assistance are innocent of any wrongdoing and shouldnt be punished, its the "bad apples" i think people who agree with me are referring to, and the system needs to change and someone/some new system needs to be put in place so there is some accountability within the assistance system to ensure the number of "husters" are limited to a bare minimum...and no, i dont think everyone is a hustler, but the ones that do hustle the system are costing you and i more than you think in tax dollars...doing something like this would not only perhaps move towards cracking down on abusers of the system, but it probably would create more government jobs because we would probably need to establish a workforce within the government to keep social assistance recipients in check</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ch317273, post: 1548687, member: 56865"] what that would teach them would be that nothing is free and you cant just be on assistance programs and sit home and not do anything but wait for a check, not that im saying everyone is like that, but the ones that are would be rooted out by doing something like that, BUT i dont think that is a viable solution not bc it doesnt make sense, it does, but i believe certain areas tried to do something years back, one was called something to the extent of "welfare mothers" or something, was a local program in the ny area that put women on welfare that were not on disability but were unemployed to work in parks cleaning and doing civil cleanup duties, the reason it failed i am told is civil service unions grieved that these women were taking work from unionized civil service workers, they had to dismantle the program....IMO i believe a piece of the puzzle of a solution here would be to put in place mandatory job searching, mandatory perhaps weekly sessions with a counselor or labor "officer" to ensure people are actively taking measures to not just stay stuck but to move in a forward direction towards either employment or school or work related training, and not just a "hey i got a job a mcdonalds", career jobs that would benefit the individual and their families.....like i said from the begining the system itself is insuffiecient, right now the legitimate people on assistance are innocent of any wrongdoing and shouldnt be punished, its the "bad apples" i think people who agree with me are referring to, and the system needs to change and someone/some new system needs to be put in place so there is some accountability within the assistance system to ensure the number of "husters" are limited to a bare minimum...and no, i dont think everyone is a hustler, but the ones that do hustle the system are costing you and i more than you think in tax dollars...doing something like this would not only perhaps move towards cracking down on abusers of the system, but it probably would create more government jobs because we would probably need to establish a workforce within the government to keep social assistance recipients in check [/QUOTE]
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