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<blockquote data-quote="nospinzone" data-source="post: 167788" data-attributes="member: 1335"><p><strong>APWA....the Evolution of Labor</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>APWA is a legal labor union. You get listed with the Dept of Labor after you've been certified as a bargaining agent. The DOL monitors and handles financial filings of unions that have been certified. So the DOL will not touch the APWA until such time. However, the APWA is a legal union in the eyes of the NLRB. The APWA has been filing motions to the NLRB and the NLRB has been protecting employees who wish to support APWA. And the NLRB finds the APWA to be a <strong>real union </strong>and would impose <strong>real</strong> fines and restrictions on the APWA if they committed infractions. Dont believe me? Call up the NLRB yourself and ask em if they've had dealings with the APWA (1-866-667-NLRB ) </p><p>The APWA has no interest in representing <strong>anyone other than the UPS employee</strong>. So they will only be on the DOL website if <em>UPS employees </em>certify them. This is how the process works. You don't get on the DOL website before the fact. Your ill-conceived requirement that a union be recognized by the DOL would disqualify <em>every new union </em>going through this process. <strong>The IPA WAS NOT RECOGNIZED BY THE DOL UNTIL THE PILOTS VOTED THEM IN.</strong> Did this fact make them illegitimate?? Your'e trying to put the cart before the horse, and no newly formed union would be capable of satisfying your requirement.</p><p></p><p> APWA is completely within the framework of the NLRA. The Act set up a process whereby employees who are disatisfied with their current representation can select a new BA. IBT no longer operates in the best interest of the UPS employee, who is the <strong>ONLY INTEREST </strong>of the APWA. APWA has no interest, desire, motivation to represent Carhaulers, Yellow Freight or any other employee other than the guys that wear the brown. Running for IBT leadership would force the candidate to represent someone other than UPS. </p><p>If UPS members wanted to effect change in IBT leadership that would protect UPS interests, we would never be capable of winning that vote. We, the UPS member, would never get the numbers. Anyone who fights to protect the UPS membership would be fighting against the interests of the other IBT members. And look at the numbers. IBT national membership is supposedly around 1.4 million. And IBT, according to their <a href="http://www.teamster.org/about/structure/demographics.htm" target="_blank">website</a>, represents only 200,000 UPS members. By my math, thats only 15% of the total vote. If you can paint those numbers any other way, feel free to enlighten me. UPS employees will never be successful in effecting IBT leadership unless we pull out completely. You're concern for those who were relying on their pension, which will now only pay out around $2,500 after you deduct insurance premiums, is obvious. Your concern for the new guys who will be forced to work 35 and forty years just so that IBT can give half of their earned pension to someone else is obvious. But to each his own, and I hope you enjoy what you've earned.</p><p></p><p>Divide..........and <em>Move Forward.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nospinzone, post: 167788, member: 1335"] [b]APWA....the Evolution of Labor[/b] APWA is a legal labor union. You get listed with the Dept of Labor after you've been certified as a bargaining agent. The DOL monitors and handles financial filings of unions that have been certified. So the DOL will not touch the APWA until such time. However, the APWA is a legal union in the eyes of the NLRB. The APWA has been filing motions to the NLRB and the NLRB has been protecting employees who wish to support APWA. And the NLRB finds the APWA to be a [B]real union [/B]and would impose [B]real[/B] fines and restrictions on the APWA if they committed infractions. Dont believe me? Call up the NLRB yourself and ask em if they've had dealings with the APWA (1-866-667-NLRB ) The APWA has no interest in representing [B]anyone other than the UPS employee[/B]. So they will only be on the DOL website if [I]UPS employees [/I]certify them. This is how the process works. You don't get on the DOL website before the fact. Your ill-conceived requirement that a union be recognized by the DOL would disqualify [I]every new union [/I]going through this process. [B]The IPA WAS NOT RECOGNIZED BY THE DOL UNTIL THE PILOTS VOTED THEM IN.[/B] Did this fact make them illegitimate?? Your'e trying to put the cart before the horse, and no newly formed union would be capable of satisfying your requirement. APWA is completely within the framework of the NLRA. The Act set up a process whereby employees who are disatisfied with their current representation can select a new BA. IBT no longer operates in the best interest of the UPS employee, who is the [B]ONLY INTEREST [/B]of the APWA. APWA has no interest, desire, motivation to represent Carhaulers, Yellow Freight or any other employee other than the guys that wear the brown. Running for IBT leadership would force the candidate to represent someone other than UPS. If UPS members wanted to effect change in IBT leadership that would protect UPS interests, we would never be capable of winning that vote. We, the UPS member, would never get the numbers. Anyone who fights to protect the UPS membership would be fighting against the interests of the other IBT members. And look at the numbers. IBT national membership is supposedly around 1.4 million. And IBT, according to their [URL="http://www.teamster.org/about/structure/demographics.htm"]website[/URL], represents only 200,000 UPS members. By my math, thats only 15% of the total vote. If you can paint those numbers any other way, feel free to enlighten me. UPS employees will never be successful in effecting IBT leadership unless we pull out completely. You're concern for those who were relying on their pension, which will now only pay out around $2,500 after you deduct insurance premiums, is obvious. Your concern for the new guys who will be forced to work 35 and forty years just so that IBT can give half of their earned pension to someone else is obvious. But to each his own, and I hope you enjoy what you've earned. Divide..........and [I]Move Forward.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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