Break Areas

[oldngray]

But will they being doing that half as much work in a covered area? That was the question

I think his post was about socialist break areas for people who pretend to work.

 

[Turdferguson]

I think his post was about socialist break areas for people who pretend to work.

Well then he was way off topic.
His post was reported

 

[flatbread]

It's a flipping shame you try to get an honest answer from people and they are acting like Assessment !!!! Thank You to the ones for the Honest I'm put !!! People need to grow up on this site.

Welcome to the Internet.

 

[rickyb]

But will they being doing that half as much work in a covered area? That was the question

no there wont be any breaks spots, just half as much work where they normally work for 30 minutes. maybe we can look at what the break rooms look like in china or vietnam and get an idea where the developed countries are headed if they do nothing.

"
Bonnie Faulkner: What is the aim of the Trans-Pacific Partnership Treaty and how is it at odds with the Asian Infrastructure Bank, the AIIB?

Michael Hudson: I could give a glib answer and say the aim is to reduce the population by 50%, to starve people, abolish pensions and spread poverty. That actually is the effect.

The cover story pretends to be about trade, but the real agenda is to force privatization and disable government regulation. This reverses what was central to the whole Progressive Era. For the last 300 years, the assumption of Europe and North America was that you were going to have a mixed economy, with governments investing in infrastructure, roads and other transportation, communications, water and sewer systems, gas and electricity. The role of government infrastructure was to provide these basic needs at minimum cost in order to promote a low-cost, competitive economy. That’s how America got rich. That’s how Germany industrialized and how the rest of Europe did. But the aim of the Trans-Pacific Partnership is to reverse and privatize public investment. Its ideology is that the economy should be owned and operated by private owners, private enterprise, whose aim is short-term profit.

There are a number of related aims: to nullify environmental protection regulations that cost money, to nullify protection of labor, and to nullify attempts to tax natural resources or economic rent. The idea is to turn roads and the transport system into toll roads, which will be owned by foreigners and run at a high charge. The Internet and the water system will be sold off and made into toll systems, to charge for their services and for other basic needs. This will impose a neo-feudal rentier economy throughout the world as the finance, industrial and real estate (FIRE) sector takes over the government sector.

I think you could say that at the broadest level, the idea is to roll back the Enlightenment and restore feudalism. That may sound like an extreme statement, but people don’t realize how radical the TPP’s investment agreements are. For instance, when Australia raised the charges on cigarettes and included health warnings on the packs, Philip Morris sued, insisting that Australia pay it what Philip Morris would have made if people would have continued to smoke and get cancer at the existing rate.

When Ecuador tried to sue oil companies for pollution, the oil companies sued, and now the country has to pay the oil company the amount of profit it would make if it continued to produce oil by polluting the land – to an infinite degree. No government anywhere in the world that signs this will be free to regulate the environment or even to enact new taxes on rent-seeking or other private enterprise.

Essentially, the new buyers of the roads, the water systems, the sewer systems, can use these as rent extraction opportunities without anti-monopoly regulations. That means they can charge whatever the market will bear, and treat foreign countries sort of like New York City cable customers are treated. I live in Forest Hills in Queens. We have one supplier, Time Warner. If I want cable, I have to pay what they charge, and it has nothing to do at all with their cost of production. I have to rent their cable box, not buy one of my own."

 

[rickyb]

Well then he was way off topic.
His post was reported

i dont know how you can say it was off topic. crapitalism is exactly why his break areas are so unbearable. you let a small number of people make all the decisions, and you have decisions that reflect their self interests.

if you had an employee run business, they would be less likely to vote collectively for an unreasonable break area

 

[Operational needs]

no there wont be any breaks spots, just half as much work where they normally work for 30 minutes. maybe we can look at what the break rooms look like in china or vietnam and get an idea where the developed countries are headed if they do nothing.

"
Bonnie Faulkner: What is the aim of the Trans-Pacific Partnership Treaty and how is it at odds with the Asian Infrastructure Bank, the AIIB?

Michael Hudson: I could give a glib answer and say the aim is to reduce the population by 50%, to starve people, abolish pensions and spread poverty. That actually is the effect.

The cover story pretends to be about trade, but the real agenda is to force privatization and disable government regulation. This reverses what was central to the whole Progressive Era. For the last 300 years, the assumption of Europe and North America was that you were going to have a mixed economy, with governments investing in infrastructure, roads and other transportation, communications, water and sewer systems, gas and electricity. The role of government infrastructure was to provide these basic needs at minimum cost in order to promote a low-cost, competitive economy. That’s how America got rich. That’s how Germany industrialized and how the rest of Europe did. But the aim of the Trans-Pacific Partnership is to reverse and privatize public investment. Its ideology is that the economy should be owned and operated by private owners, private enterprise, whose aim is short-term profit.

There are a number of related aims: to nullify environmental protection regulations that cost money, to nullify protection of labor, and to nullify attempts to tax natural resources or economic rent. The idea is to turn roads and the transport system into toll roads, which will be owned by foreigners and run at a high charge. The Internet and the water system will be sold off and made into toll systems, to charge for their services and for other basic needs. This will impose a neo-feudal rentier economy throughout the world as the finance, industrial and real estate (FIRE) sector takes over the government sector.

I think you could say that at the broadest level, the idea is to roll back the Enlightenment and restore feudalism. That may sound like an extreme statement, but people don’t realize how radical the TPP’s investment agreements are. For instance, when Australia raised the charges on cigarettes and included health warnings on the packs, Philip Morris sued, insisting that Australia pay it what Philip Morris would have made if people would have continued to smoke and get cancer at the existing rate.

When Ecuador tried to sue oil companies for pollution, the oil companies sued, and now the country has to pay the oil company the amount of profit it would make if it continued to produce oil by polluting the land – to an infinite degree. No government anywhere in the world that signs this will be free to regulate the environment or even to enact new taxes on rent-seeking or other private enterprise.

Essentially, the new buyers of the roads, the water systems, the sewer systems, can use these as rent extraction opportunities without anti-monopoly regulations. That means they can charge whatever the market will bear, and treat foreign countries sort of like New York City cable customers are treated. I live in Forest Hills in Queens. We have one supplier, Time Warner. If I want cable, I have to pay what they charge, and it has nothing to do at all with their cost of production. I have to rent their cable box, not buy one of my own."

Seriously??? The OP just asked a simple yes or no question. He didn't ask for a novel. Less is more.

 

[rickyb]

Seriously??? The OP just wanted asked a simple yes or no question. He didn't ask for a novel. Less is more.

no the OP needs some context to understand why its happening and where things are headed

 

[Operational needs]

no the OP needs some context to understand why its happening and where things are headed

I would bet you $20 USD that he could not care less. Just whether UPS has to provide it or not.

 

[oldngray]

ricky's novel had absolutely nothing to do with UPS break areas.

 

[rickyb]

I would bet you $20 USD that he could not care less. Just whether UPS has to provide it or not.

when hes eating a wet sandwhich in the rain, it might cross his mind

 

[silenze]

Usually if you hug the wall like spiderman you can escape most of the rain drops

 

[Turdferguson]

i dont know how you can say it was off topic. crapitalism is exactly why his break areas are so unbearable. you let a small number of people make all the decisions, and you have decisions that reflect their self interests.

if you had an employee run business, they would be less likely to vote collectively for an unreasonable break area

Capitalism has nothing to do with why the break area's are horrible . The reason they have no frills is because they would be destroyed by the hourlies. Looks what they do to break rooms now, and don't get me started on the bathroom

 

[rickyb]

Capitalism has nothing to do with why the break area's are horrible . The reason they have no frills is because they would be destroyed by the hourlies. Looks what they do to break rooms now, and don't get me started on the bathroom

the people who make most of teh money off of UPS (capitalists) dont have to take breaks in those break areas. so why should they care about their employees anymore than they have to.

another answer to his question would be what does the law say about break areas? so if there is no law, you could blame the free market for uncovered break areas in the rain.

 

[Turdferguson]

the people who make most of teh money off of UPS (capitalists) dont have to take breaks in those break areas. so why should they care about their employees anymore than they have to.

another answer to his question would be what does the law say about break areas? so if there is no law, you could blame the free market for uncovered break areas in the rain.

You are thinking too hard about this. It is because it would get destroyed within a week

 

[Operational needs]

You are thinking too hard about this. It is because it would get destroyed within a week

Some people, like rickyb, can't imagine that sometimes things are just that simple. It doesn't fit into their plan of making mountains out of molehills.

 

[Bubblehead]

Capitalism has nothing to do with why the break area's are horrible . The reason they have no frills is because they would be destroyed by the hourlies. Looks what they do to break rooms now, and don't get me started on the bathroom

You are thinking too hard about this. It is because it would get destroyed within a week

My building has had 2 break rooms with booths to sit and an entire wall of vending machines.
Both have gone virtually unchanged, aside from painting, for 30 years.
We have staff, called porters, who clean up these areas daily.

Perhaps @Lead Belly could "illustrate" this for you?
He's fascinated with the vocation.

 

[Turdferguson]

My building has had 2 break rooms with booths to sit and an entire wall of vending machines.
Both have goon virtually unchanged, aside from painting, for 30 years.
We have staff, called porters, who clean up these areas daily.

Perhaps @Lead Belly could "illustrate" this for you?
He's fascinated with the vocation.

Our building doesn't have porters, outside company does it.

 

[oldngray]

My building had 2 break rooms inside with vending machines. The one outside with a picnic table was for those who wanted to smoke.

 

[Brown Down]

What is this break area you all speak of? Ours is (1) trafficade and that's it.

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Ours has 3

 

[scooby0048]

Ours has 3

Well aren't you special! You must work out of the Beverly Hills center! 4 skinny people, 2 fatties and 1 skinny, or 3 fatties can park their asses on top of ours. Who needs a break area when you've got that!