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<blockquote data-quote="av8torntn" data-source="post: 759897" data-attributes="member: 8259"><p>To me this is not a first amendment issue even in a small way. I don't think anyone has said that they want Islam to be the established religion or a prohibited religion of the US. It's hard to get around the fact that the Government already tells citizens what they can or cannot build for a variety of reasons. The Mormons were brought up earlier and that is a great example of a Christian religion that has been blocked many times over the years by the government from building their churches. They were kidnapped, tortured and even hung for their religion. </p><p> </p><p>One of the articles I linked to earlier(I think) was about a local government not allowing a Christian church to tear down a building to have more parking space for their congregation. I have not really followed the mosque story but I remember seeing a meeting where the citizens were asking their government to not allow this group to tear down a building for their mosque. Why give a group special treatment just because they are Muslim?</p><p> </p><p>I personally think if you own property you should be allowed to do what you want with it. However, in this Country this is not the way things are. I own several rental properties and if someone wanted to rent a place from me and she was pregnant and I turned her away I would be in violation of the law. If I wanted to knock out a wall and expand a room or even close in a garage without permission from the government I would be in violation of the law. Heck for that matter I would not even be allowed to burn it down to avoid the property taxes. I am sure you have all types of justifications for the government not allowing people to do what they want with their property but the truth is that we have lost our rights to do what we want with our properties some time ago. </p><p> </p><p>My view is I'd rather not have to live under all this government oppression but if we must why can we not use it to our advantage? I say let them build their mosque there. The government should throw up every regulatory barrier they can and drive the costs up to the billions and make it take twenty years to build much in the same way they do with power plants. I would then ask the government to come in and use eminent domain to confiscate the property for pennies on the dollar(much like has been done many times before) and build a monument to the victims of Muslim violence in this Country.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="av8torntn, post: 759897, member: 8259"] To me this is not a first amendment issue even in a small way. I don't think anyone has said that they want Islam to be the established religion or a prohibited religion of the US. It's hard to get around the fact that the Government already tells citizens what they can or cannot build for a variety of reasons. The Mormons were brought up earlier and that is a great example of a Christian religion that has been blocked many times over the years by the government from building their churches. They were kidnapped, tortured and even hung for their religion. One of the articles I linked to earlier(I think) was about a local government not allowing a Christian church to tear down a building to have more parking space for their congregation. I have not really followed the mosque story but I remember seeing a meeting where the citizens were asking their government to not allow this group to tear down a building for their mosque. Why give a group special treatment just because they are Muslim? I personally think if you own property you should be allowed to do what you want with it. However, in this Country this is not the way things are. I own several rental properties and if someone wanted to rent a place from me and she was pregnant and I turned her away I would be in violation of the law. If I wanted to knock out a wall and expand a room or even close in a garage without permission from the government I would be in violation of the law. Heck for that matter I would not even be allowed to burn it down to avoid the property taxes. I am sure you have all types of justifications for the government not allowing people to do what they want with their property but the truth is that we have lost our rights to do what we want with our properties some time ago. My view is I'd rather not have to live under all this government oppression but if we must why can we not use it to our advantage? I say let them build their mosque there. The government should throw up every regulatory barrier they can and drive the costs up to the billions and make it take twenty years to build much in the same way they do with power plants. I would then ask the government to come in and use eminent domain to confiscate the property for pennies on the dollar(much like has been done many times before) and build a monument to the victims of Muslim violence in this Country. [/QUOTE]
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