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No It's not green grocer!
The answer is simple; they could simly honor the labor agreement that they entered into.
Follow the contract= no grievances.
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!
The answer is simple; they could simly honor the labor agreement that they entered into.
Follow the contract= no grievances.
Like others have said I would be all for the elimination of the union because no company should have to put up with a terrible employee. I just do not trust the way the company will be run and employees will be treated if there was no union..
That's pretty much the way it is now, no?You cant have it both ways.
UPS entered into a labor agreement that spells out what employees may and may not be fired for.
My experience has been that "terrible" employees who are able to keep their jobs do so because their management team failed to properly document a case against them or, more often, were attempting to selectively apply the langauge of the contract against particular employees that they didnt like.
I think you would come to find that, in a non-union UPS, your definition of a "terrible" employee probably wouldnt match up well with the company's definiton, and that the "terrible" label would be applied to just about anyone who was full-scale, or who ever had an inury, or who ever refused to work unsafely or off of the clock.
If people werent lazy and did the job to the best of there ability at all times there would be no reason for management threats. Union simply protects the lazy and underqualified and holds the company back. I am in the union and dont like it.
If people werent lazy and did the job to the best of there ability at all times there would be no reason for management threats. Union simply protects the lazy and underqualified and holds the company back. I am in the union and dont like it.
That's pretty much the way it is now, no?
You greatly misunderstood meIf thats the way it is for you it is only because your support for your local union is week, I assure you that if you get 100% active participation in your local union then you will not be treated poorly because the company will know that if one member is mistreated then all members have been mistreated and that they will stand up for one another whenever needed!!!
You want things to get better, GET INVOLVED WITH YOUR LOCAL UNION!!
GO TO MEETINGS, LEARN THE CONTRACT, HAVE BALLS ENOUGH TO STAND UP WHEN WRONGED!!!!!!!!!
Sober said that without a union, management's definition of a "terrible employee" would be just about anyone who was full-scale, or who ever had an inury, or who ever refused to work unsafely or off of the clock.Hellp me out then!!!!!!
I don't know how it is where you are,but there are no lazy people holding the company back in my center and there is still plenty of management threats.If people werent lazy and did the job to the best of there ability at all times there would be no reason for management threats. Union simply protects the lazy and underqualified and holds the company back. I am in the union and dont like it.
i think that most of us stewards feel the same way. and as far as the lazy worker thing goes i would say that 95% of my building goes out and busts his/her ass everyday and still there is harassment , intimidation and anything else that management can think of to drive you nuts.Good, Thanks for the clarification.
I am a steward at local 795, sometimes i think we stewards care more about the hourly then they do for themselves!!
It pisses me off to no end to hear someone bad mouth the union!!
Then why dont you go into management? Or take a job with a non-union company?
Oh, thats right....those jobs have no security, or no seniority, or they dont pay as well. Damn those unions anyway.
And as far as you being in the union and "not liking" it....you arent a victim. You do have a choice. The door is there; try not to let it hit you in the ass on your way out. Walmart, McDonalds and Taco Bell are just a few of the many employers that will offer you a golden opportunity to reap the benefits of a non-union workplace. What are you waiting for?
If people werent lazy and did the job to the best of there ability at all times there would be no reason for management threats. Union simply protects the lazy and underqualified and holds the company back. I am in the union and dont like it.
Job description is the same but productivity is down and a larger number of p/t sups to help with the training, etc.UPS's part time pay today does not pay well if you look back 30 years ago. A 60% difference in job worth is a huge difference. $8/hr in 1980 was worth ~$20/hr in todays money. Granted the jobs are a little bit easier to learn with PAS, once it's learned, the jobs are the same.
It is but get ready to take a huge pay cut.I hear fed-ex is a nice place to work!!!
While we're at it. Why don't we get rid of all of the women, and anyone with any type of disability. Oh heck, if your not 6', blonde hair, and blue eyes you need not apply.