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[250s]

I agree with you. We refused ICC instructions at VALE colorado after the crash and sat parked for 2 hours until Penske came and put chains onto our rental tractor. Turned out, we had the wrong kind of chains in the tractor and ICC still insisted we keep moving or be diverted to NJ. The team that crashed was a set of rookies that were also told to keep moving without chains. (they were not required in Glenwood springs) and mandatory in Vale.

I also agree and saw the same thing when I was down in red river going up and it started to snow and a sleeper team passed me like i was standing still. One of our teams also had three flat tires three separate times in the rockies.

If you were in Vale about midnight, you would remember seeing at least 10 sleeper teams parked there at chain up, and NONE of them capable of putting on chains. Thank God I called Penske on the way up and had them there when we arrived.

As for CMG/ICC, you know the routine, they tell you to keep going no matter what, then it takes a short argument to convince them of anything, then they start with the threats and phone calls. I agree, I dont drive when its unsafe no matter what they say.

My B drivers shift began at midnight at vale, and he was scared shirtless about having to drive down the mountain in those conditions. ICC got into a huge argument with him and in the end, we lost 2 hours because it was just too dangerous.

Yes, this run had ALL the rookies who graduated feeder in october from so cal. and that led to most of the problems.

Poor planning on UPS part for not training them earlier in 2013 and having them ready for something like this.

TOS.

Good post, I've been going through the Rockies and bad weather for 10 years. Those conditions were average, I've seen a lot worse and it wasn't even that cold!! When dealing with CMG and bad weather, you never ask, you just tell them you're shutting it down. Of course they'll try to talk you out of it, what can they do, it's a safety issue! Rookies or no rookies, you'd think common sense would dictate you to slow down. Again, just my opinion.

 

[slingblade]

Extra?

They run trains over a mile long and they're loaded full. There is no extra. The game is to make sure our trailers instead of someone elses are on that train.

do you work for the railroad? I'm curious how you would know how much equipment the railroad has?

 

[cachsux]

Rookie feeder drivers in so-cal since october making it to sleeper teams. Ok. Sure.

 

[pickup]

I agree with you. We refused ICC instructions at VALE colorado after the crash and sat parked for 2 hours until Penske came and put chains onto our rental tractor. Turned out, we had the wrong kind of chains in the tractor and ICC still insisted we keep moving or be diverted to NJ. The team that crashed was a set of rookies that were also told to keep moving without chains. (they were not required in Glenwood springs) and mandatory in Vale.

I also agree and saw the same thing when I was down in red river going up and it started to snow and a sleeper team passed me like i was standing still. One of our teams also had three flat tires three separate times in the rockies.

If you were in Vale about midnight, you would remember seeing at least 10 sleeper teams parked there at chain up, and NONE of them capable of putting on chains. Thank God I called Penske on the way up and had them there when we arrived.

As for CMG/ICC, you know the routine, they tell you to keep going no matter what, then it takes a short argument to convince them of anything, then they start with the threats and phone calls. I agree, I dont drive when its unsafe no matter what they say.

My B drivers shift began at midnight at vale, and he was scared shirtless about having to drive down the mountain in those conditions. ICC got into a huge argument with him and in the end, we lost 2 hours because it was just too dangerous.

Yes, this run had ALL the rookies who graduated feeder in october from so cal. and that led to most of the problems.

Poor planning on UPS part for not training them earlier in 2013 and having them ready for something like this.

TOS.

So even though he didn't answer the question directly, I assume , based on the above post, that TOS is part of the October So. Cal feeder rookie class. And part of a sleeper team, to boot. Hey, Tos, just in case you haven't figured it out, your team driver isn't going straight from the driver's seat to the bunk because he needs to get some sleep, he is doing that get away from you and your non stop airing of your opinions.

Also, another question Tos, does your so cal. motorcycle posse ride in a convoy with you in the event that you need to teach any non cooperative motorists a lesson in sharing the road?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Our BA told us yesterday that we are fighting with the manufacturers of Chinese-made goods for available space on the trains.

 

[pickup]

Wow, another scary thought, TOS might have a C.B. (citizen's band radio) to broadcast his opinions to a listening audience of a 2 1/2 mile radius.

 

[cachsux]

do you work for the railroad? I'm curious how you would know how much equipment the railroad has?

Maybe because for the last 18 1/2 years interacting between UPS and the railyard is the only job I've done?

 

[pickup]

Our BA told us yesterday that we are fighting with the manufacturers of Chinese-made goods for available space on the trains.

Which is really ironic, because at least 95% of what we ship in our packages fall into the same category.

 

[pretender]

Poor planning on UPS part for not training them earlier in 2013 and having them ready for something like this.

TOS.

I never could figure out why they do feeder training in October...

 

[slingblade]

I never could figure out why they do feeder training in October...

reckon they need em in december..uhuh

 

[cachsux]

Our BA told us yesterday that we are fighting with the manufacturers of Chinese-made goods for available space on the trains.

Dave, we're fighting with everybody.

In a way we did this to ourselves. We came up with all these service commitments that eventually couldn't be met by the existing rail system. So we created sleeper teams and such to move trailers faster by road. Our less volume caused the railyards to cut back and have to find other shippers. Then the recession hit cause further cutbacks. As the economy returns they have less equipment and employees so it's not a matter of just calling a driver to come in and jump in a rental truck like we can. They have X amount of space and it is up for grabs. Throw in this years weather. Throw in his years piss poor planning. Now we have late/backed up trailers and still the X amount of rail space.

It's the trailer version of going back to a jilted lover and wondering why she won't help us out.

 

[cachsux]

I never could figure out why they do feeder training in October...

We were bringing in the first of our guys at the end of August.

 

[cachsux]

My biggest disbelief is the idea that TOS left his gated wonderland to come to the heart of gun violence country. How did he make it out alive?

 

[slingblade]

Maybe because for the last 18 1/2 years interacting between UPS and the railyard is the only job I've done?

K. do they give you a daily count on available equipment?

 

[pretender]

reckon they need em in december..uhuh

They know in April there is going to be a need for drivers for peak season. Why not do the training in the Spring, and give people a chance to ease into it by covering vacations? Not to mention the fact that that these days, the person doing the training is barely qualified. BTW--many of the seasonal feeder runs are added before December.

 

[slingblade]

They know in April there is going to be a need for drivers for peak season. Why not do the training in the Spring, and give people a chance to ease into it by covering vacations? Not to mention the fact that that these days, the person doing the training is barely qualified. BTW--many of the seasonal feeder runs are added before December.

reckon that would make sense, which may be why they dont do it.

 

[cachsux]

K. do they give you a daily count on available equipment?

I'm the middle man. I hear the bitching from both sides. I just stand there till they make up their minds and get paid.

 

[joeboodog]

They know in April there is going to be a need for drivers for peak season. Why not do the training in the Spring, and give people a chance to ease into it by covering vacations? Not to mention the fact that that these days, the person doing the training is barely qualified. BTW--many of the seasonal feeder runs are added before December.

Aw come on. That would make too much sense. Besides it would cut into Dear Leader's bonus.

 

[pretender]

We were bringing in the first of our guys at the end of August.

At least that gives them a little time to get used to it.

I know it is NOT funny, but I had to chuckle at the thought of being trained in October, and being sent into the mountains in a snowstorm in January!

 

[slingblade]

I'm the middle man. I hear the bitching from both sides. I just stand there till they make up their minds and get paid.

sounds like a good job if you got some earplugs