Can laid off freight road drivers bump back into P&D

Discussion in 'UPS Freight' started by Dalamo, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. Dalamo

    Dalamo New Member

    At my teminal ORO/400 we have been loseing road runs like crazy starting 10/12/09 were losing 3 more not because we have no freight but because of all the contractors we have coming in loaded and lately theyve been pulling loaded sets out when we have drivers working the dock or sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring. There also cutting 3 city routes. Meaning that a total of 6 more drivers are coming to the dock Is it right that the road drivers can bump back into the city even though they are changing classification from road to Local cartage
     
  2. City Driver

    City Driver New Member

    same problem here but they seem to be working the dock not the city
     
  3. Dalamo

    Dalamo New Member

    Here the laid off drivers are working the city and bumping the city drivers down to the dock
     
  4. FreightKicker

    FreightKicker FreightKicker

    Because you asked.

    ARTICLE 5
    Section 1. Seniority

    (d) For full-time employees there shall be two seniority lists, “local
    cartage” and “over-the-road.” There shall also be a separate “casual
    local cartage” seniority list. Employees in the following classifications
    shall be included on the local cartage seniority list: all truck
    drivers, helpers, dock workers, jockeys, and such other employees
    as may be presently or hereafter represented by the Union, engaged
    in local pickup, delivery, and assembling of freight. The “over-the road”
    seniority list shall include all over-the-road drivers whose primary
    job is to transport freight between the Employer’s facilities.


    (e) The Company shall offer extra city or dock work to road
    employees who are on layoff and who are qualified and immediately
    available for city or dock work prior to using casual employees,
    except where there is a mutually agreed procedure to the contrary.
    No road employee shall gain “local cartage” seniority under this
    provision, but he/she shall accrue Company seniority.


    The answer is no... If you are a laid off road driver then you must stay in your job classification. You can ask to go P&D but... you will start at the bottom of the seniority list for that job classification. Your "Company" seniority only applies to "Company" layoff.

    :not_fair:
     
  5. like we say in indianapolis, you can thank sonny" the nap taker " strong for this crappy contract, and the weak ass teamsters for not working faster on the greivances.
     
  6. City Driver

    City Driver New Member

    sonny is the type of guy who would complain even if we made $400 an hour
     
  7. bigrigdriver

    bigrigdriver New Member

    That does not make any sense, if a road driver's run gets eleminated then brought into the city route & given other city driver's hours becuase of seniority, does that mean the bottom seniority city drivers get laid off? Arent these road drivers suppose to be starting at the bottom behind all of the city drivers?:confused2::rain:
     
  8. FreightKicker

    FreightKicker FreightKicker

    Yes... at the very bottom that he/she changed into.. Displacing the bottom driver he/she changed into. Meaning... That driver will more than likely walk. So on and so on... Until he reaches the bottom of his seniority date of the job classification he change into.
     
  9. i would file a grievance each day that the company and the stewards allow this to continue....make sure you put some where on the grievance you wirsh to be present and get a copy of the the front and back.
     
  10. daveg

    daveg daveg

    we had 4 road drivers bump in when their runs were given to contractors.they pushed our 4 lowest seniority city drivers into layoff.the city work didn't change just the personel.i see this site still uses the same ugly smilies.:offtopic:
     
  11. 1st1getsU

    1st1getsU New Member

    So can city bump road out of their position just because the TM says there's a layoff? But casuals are still working and still have bid start times. It maybe a work slow down and I thought there's 2 boards" Road" and "Local". Can a guy be hired as a Road driver then transfer to Local then when the TM says there's a layoff go back to road because the work slowed down in Local for a couple of weeks?
     
  12. 1st1getsU

    1st1getsU New Member

    So can city bump road out of their position just because the TM says there's a layoff? But casuals are still working and still have bid start times. It maybe a work slow down and I thought there's 2 boards" Road" and "Local". Can a guy be hired as a Road driver then transfer to Local then when the TM says there's a layoff go back to road because the work slowed down in Local for a couple of weeks?