Can they do this?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by BUCN85, Mar 13, 2015.

  1. BUCN85

    BUCN85 Active Member

    Right now our center is in desperate need of drivers believe it or not. We have one driver that has just started his training. But there are days where our center will bring in a driver from 2 different centers. (And one of these centers is under a different local). And these drivers work over him. Now this doesn't effect me at all. I was just curious if this is allowed only because we need drivers so bad. Yet the driver in training isn't getting to work.
     
  2. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    Should they do it? No. Can they, yes. I'd say he should grieve it, but while trying to qualify it's best not to create any waves
     
  3. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Deplorable.

    It is allowed. A non-seniority employee cannot displace a seniority employee.
     
  4. BUCN85

    BUCN85 Active Member

    Wow that kinda sucks then to be in his position. Not really getting a fair shot only working 2 days a week. Oh well I guess
     
  5. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Call your business agent.
     
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  6. BUCN85

    BUCN85 Active Member

    Not really a big deal to me. I was just curious about this issue.
     
  7. undies

    undies Active Member

    It sure sounds legal. If the driver from another building is laid off and full time, he gets to displace any part time driver from their work. Get your facts together before you complain!
     
  8. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Some locals have agreements with the company that allows building to borrow people from another. Sometimes its not even a local thing but maybe a deal that only applies to certain buildings within a local. Those drivers that are helping your building shouldn't be working over your drivers in yours unless they are laid off full-timers bumping into your building. If your local even allows that. When my center is short of drivers they just pile the work from the driverless routes onto those that are working. If it's emergency where the center is behind because of bad weather we end up getting management employees from other areas that weren't affected instead of actual drivers.
     
  9. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    It's always best to start with your business agent.
     
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  10. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    Well start with Stewart and if Stewart isnt helpful then go to the BA.
     
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Did you miss the part where one of the drivers being brought in is not even in their local?
     
  12. Richard Harrow

    Richard Harrow Deplorable.

    Not relevant. A card-carrying member of the union w/ seniority has the right to work. An employee in their 30 days does not.

    I imagine this has happened before near me in NYC, where there are two locals within the 5 boroughs.

    EDIT: also, don't forget those four magic words in the contract that serve as a trump card for the company: "needs of the business".
     
  13. BUCN85

    BUCN85 Active Member

    Like I said before I can care less. I was just asking a simple question for general knowledge or like you say " getting my facts together"
     
  14. onehandsolo

    onehandsolo Active Member

    It happens in my center all the time. The thing is in my 20 plus years as a driver 50% of the time we have been tight on staffing. It is always something basically __it happens.
     
  15. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    They can displace full time. Only if the route is designated as a training route. In my tiny center. We have 2.
     
  16. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    We got around 15 training routes according to management. They were trying to put "training route" on every one that went up for bid.
     
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    We have 5 loops---each has a training route. They normally use the same route to train all new drivers as it has a good commercial/residential mix with a lot of pickups.
     
  18. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    Do these management take an hourly with them?
     
  19. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Negative. In almost every case every single hourly that wanted to work was already being used. Except for one time and grievances were filled.
     
  20. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    I was thinking a part time employee, who was waiting to go driving.