Can you be forced to work....

[EmraldArcher]

Two shifts on the same day?

My hub started a day shift (sun-thu) for peak season. On Sundays we usually work around 7 hours.

Today however they are trying to force us to work a second shift after the first with an unpaid 60-90 minute break between the two.

Is this allowed? I know an employee can be forced to work on a day they would otherwise have off but I have never heard of a forced double.

 

[barnyard]

I would imagine that it is covered in the contract or supplement.

 

[EmraldArcher]

I would imagine that it is covered in the contract or supplement.

One would imagine but i dont have a copy with me and there are no stewards on this shift

 

[MoarTape]

What supplement are you under?

 

[EmraldArcher]

What supplement are you under?

South eastern or whatever its called these days. Im in Florida.

 

[PT Car Washer]

If you are PT I don't see how UPS can force you to cover another sort after you completed your sort. Tell UPS to hire more people and give them a better wage.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Two shifts on the same day?

My hub started a day shift (sun-thu) for peak season. On Sundays we usually work around 7 hours.

Today however they are trying to force us to work a second shift after the first with an unpaid 60-90 minute break between the two.

Is this allowed? I know an employee can be forced to work on a day they would otherwise have off but I have never heard of a forced double.

How exactly are they "forcing" you? However, on a 7 hour shift...they can make you take an unpaid break to "encourage" you to work a second shift. But how can they force you to work?

 

[EmraldArcher]

If you are PT I don't see how UPS can force you to cover another sort after you completed your sort. Tell UPS to hire more people and give them a better wage.

Its not a normal sort, its a one-off thing because theyre expecting a ton of air from Jacksonville or something. I wouldnt have minded if they had given us a little warning but they didnt tell us until this mornings pcm.

The fact that were punching out for this hour+ break is whats irking me. If it was just another couple of hours added to the shift fine, but now they want me to sit around the hub not getting paid.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Its not a normal sort, its a one-off thing because theyre expecting a ton of air from Jacksonville or something. I wouldnt have minded if they had given us a little warning but they didnt tell us until this mornings pcm.

The fact that were punching out for this hour+ break is whats irking me. If it was just another couple of hours added to the shift fine, but now they want me to sit around the hub not getting paid.

They can force you to take a break...they cannot force you to work a double. Call your steward.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Once you punch out and leave the day is over unless you want to come back for more hours.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I assume they are having you go on break rather than paying you until the air comes in from the airport. Today is also the busiest travel day of the year so there may be delays.

Can you be forced? Depends on your seniority.

 

[EmraldArcher]

How exactly are they "forcing" you? However, on a 7 hour shift...they can make you take an unpaid break to "encourage" you to work a second shift. But how can they force you to work?

Well yea they cant ever physically FORCE you to work but they are telling us we have to come back.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

Well yea they cant ever physically FORCE you to work but they are telling us we have to come back.

And you tell them you need to talk to your steward.

 

[EmraldArcher]

Once you punch out and leave the day is over unless you want to come back for more hours.

Yea this was my thinking as well but our timecards mysteriously disappeared beween thursday and today so the paranoid side of me is just worried they might try and hit anyone who doesnt come back with job abandonment.

 

[EmraldArcher]

And you tell them you need to talk to your steward.

This shift doesnt have one on sundays.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

This shift doesnt have one on sundays.

No co-workers have your steward's phone #??

 

[EmraldArcher]

They can force you to take a break...they cannot force you to work a double. Call your steward.

How long of an unpaid break can they force you to take beyond the break mandated in the supplement?

 

[MoarTape]

https://web.archive.org/web/20140328053648/https://tdu.org/sites/default/files/Southern_Region_0.pdf

Check to see if there's specific language covering this. I'm fairly certain that regardless of your supplement, they can't force you to work a second shift in a day. I know some areas force people to work Sundays, but they pay double time for it.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How long is the second shift expected to run?

 

[bleedinbrown58]

How long of an unpaid break can they force you to take beyond the break mandated in the supplement?

Just what the supplement says. Or what is mandated by state law. After that, work me or I'm going home. They can't expect you to sit around off the clock for 2 hours waiting for air. You are not on call!