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<blockquote data-quote="code5" data-source="post: 818370" data-attributes="member: 11550"><p>Yes, the union doesn't benefit for more than 8 hours work, but their intent is to protect full time jobs and I can understand that.</p><p> </p><p>We can get suspended if we go over 12, but they have made it clear that missed is tolerable to stay under. 12 hours is a 10 p.m. punchout, to me is totally unacceptable for the employees and the customers.</p><p> </p><p>The only way we can go to the labour board is from a dispute with the union. In fairness, no one has called management out on the 48 hour rule, but sounds like we would be within our right. Problem is thats not day to day, its per week. The only day we could do it is Friday.</p><p> </p><p>Also, we don't fall under provincial law, its National Law. All shipping companies are like that. Our provincial law is actually 44 hours, not 48.</p><p> </p><p>Like I said, I realize our biggest problem is not getting tough enouph with our managment. Its a different culture for us. None of us filed grievances regarding OT before because we had a driver sort and load and started at 7 instead of 9 and we had better management then. The latest we ever had to work was 7 p.m. because we could go code 5 if we were overdispatched, now code 5 is out of the question no matter what, so the earliest we can punch out is 7 p.m. We are just starting to learn how to be disgruntled employees! lol </p><p> </p><p>By the way, presently they are saying we are overstaffed because no one is on holidays, so they ask a week ahead who wants days off with or without paid optionals. If we were all around 9 hours that would be acceptable, but the whole fleet has paid says between 10 and 12 hours. Your choice on the days off is to either get paid 0 hours or 10 to 12 hours. Our guaranteed 8 hours is a mere myth. We are never put in a situation to work less than 8 but get paid for it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="code5, post: 818370, member: 11550"] Yes, the union doesn't benefit for more than 8 hours work, but their intent is to protect full time jobs and I can understand that. We can get suspended if we go over 12, but they have made it clear that missed is tolerable to stay under. 12 hours is a 10 p.m. punchout, to me is totally unacceptable for the employees and the customers. The only way we can go to the labour board is from a dispute with the union. In fairness, no one has called management out on the 48 hour rule, but sounds like we would be within our right. Problem is thats not day to day, its per week. The only day we could do it is Friday. Also, we don't fall under provincial law, its National Law. All shipping companies are like that. Our provincial law is actually 44 hours, not 48. Like I said, I realize our biggest problem is not getting tough enouph with our managment. Its a different culture for us. None of us filed grievances regarding OT before because we had a driver sort and load and started at 7 instead of 9 and we had better management then. The latest we ever had to work was 7 p.m. because we could go code 5 if we were overdispatched, now code 5 is out of the question no matter what, so the earliest we can punch out is 7 p.m. We are just starting to learn how to be disgruntled employees! lol By the way, presently they are saying we are overstaffed because no one is on holidays, so they ask a week ahead who wants days off with or without paid optionals. If we were all around 9 hours that would be acceptable, but the whole fleet has paid says between 10 and 12 hours. Your choice on the days off is to either get paid 0 hours or 10 to 12 hours. Our guaranteed 8 hours is a mere myth. We are never put in a situation to work less than 8 but get paid for it. [/QUOTE]
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