Cancel big ticket items , Vacations even Christmas !!!

[ORLY!?!]

Turn off Fox News, ORLY!?!, because nothing you wrote is factual. Health care costs have been soaring beyond inflation for over 30 years, with some of the biggest gains occurring during a Republican-controlled Administration & Congress. As I've mentioned, the biggest contribution is the increasing burden of the uninsured / underinsured, and the domino effect it has on the system. Contrary to what you may believe, UPS DOES NOT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU. UPS is in business to earn profits, and Wall Street is increasingly concerned with UPS's high labor costs in relative to its competitors. It has absolutely nothing to do with ObamaCare, or anything else other than the fact that UPS is concerned about future profits; it's paying $10,000 more per year for each employee covered by a family plan than it was two contracts ago. As long as the rest of America continues to bend over & accept low/mediocre compensation for the work they perform, while smiling at their CEO earning $200 MILLION (as the CEO of Home Depot did several years ago), UPSers are screwed.

I dont watch Fox news, I read alot threw the interwebs. I take in and grasp the topic and lay out my personal thoughts. Ok, keep telling yourself that its the republicans fault while theres a democrat in office for the past 5 years now. If it was so easy to blame the other side, why cant the libs do something about it? Its the democrats play book, its everyone elses fault, not ours.

O care is driving up prices on everything. The talks of raising wages will drive up costs. New taxes are coming, health care taxes are coming and more cost of living taxes are coming. Inflation on food, gas and service are already here and going up, up & up. Yet I blame this all on the right because they are the ones in control right now, correct? Trust me, we are heading to a type of country nobody is going to want. When that is at a head, go ahead and blame us as you will do so anyways.

In fact, Bush called for reform of franniemac 17 times in 2008 alone. He claimed the economy was headed for a sharp down turn while prices on just about everything will be heading up. Why would he come out and say that? Why, because he wasnt at fault and saw the crash coming a long time before this. Meanwhile, the left started in on saying there was nothing to fear, why would they say that? Why, because there were to blame for it all.

Bush Called For Reform of Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac 17 Times in 2008 Alone… Dems Ignored Warnings | The Gateway Pundit

Always blame the us! I think not friends!

 

[moreluck]

I can still hear old Bawney Fwank saying Freddie and Fanny were solid !!! (lying POS)

 

[ORLY!?!]

I can still hear old Bawney Fwank saying Freddie and Fanny were solid !!! (lying POS)

I just watched that video on youtube today. He was of the many democrats on the kick backs ( including Obama ), so he as many of his fellow members didnt want to give away free money. The mess we are in now is because of them, not the other side.

I love catching libs with their pants down muahaha, they make it too easy.

 

[1BROWNWRENCH]

I can still hear old Bawney Fwank saying Freddie and Fanny were solid !!! (lying POS)

That's "Fweddy". Get it wight, pwease.

 

[bottomups]

The pension in my local has not increased in over 20 years. All money going to the union as Health & Welfare has gone straight into health insurance to keep the fund solvent without more out of pocket expenses for the members. Healthcare costs have increased faster than inflation for as long as I can remember. Blaming the current increases on Obamacare seems a little short sighted as these costs have been increasing for years already.

 

[bottomups]

I can still hear old Bawney Fwank saying Freddie and Fanny were solid !!! (lying POS)

I can still hear old Shrub & Cheney saying we had to take out Saddam because of his weapons of mass destruction!!! (lying POS X2)

 

[ORLY!?!]

I can still hear old Shrub & Cheney saying we had to take out Saddam because of his weapons of mass destruction!!! (lying POS X2)

Are you people dull or just brain dead? WMDs are a lot more then just nukes.

The intel on this was taken from other governments that Saddam had obtained a nuke. After the gassing of people in March 16 1988, you bet your asses we shouldve went in there to stop him from even using any of it. The war in Iraq was the right choice ( just watch the video and tell me it wasnt ). 20 years from now, the war on terror will be held in high thoughts that he did the right thing overall.

 

[bbsam]

No. Probably not.

 

[Bagels]

I dont watch Fox news, I read alot threw the interwebs. I take in and grasp the topic and lay out my personal thoughts. Ok, keep telling yourself that its the republicans fault while theres a democrat in office for the past 5 years now. If it was so easy to blame the other side, why cant the libs do something about it? Its the democrats play book, its everyone elses fault, not ours.

O care is driving up prices on everything.

Please show me one piece of evidence that ObamaCare is "driving up prices on everything." (I'm heavily educated on the topics I write about -- I don't write from emotion.) That's completely false, and absurd considering that the law hasn't taken effect. And don't use heavily bias sources, such as the CEO of Papa John's threat to raise prices; he's long been a mouthpiece for the Republican party (nor is it likely he'll make good on his threat, given that pizza is a commodity). I didn't blame the right wing, but it's a fact that the affordability of our health care system is in a crisis that's disproportinately affecting lower/middle income families & that the domino effect will keep this problem snowballing, thus we need to do something.

In fact, Bush called for reform of franniemac 17 times in 2008 alone. He claimed the economy was headed for a sharp down turn while prices on just about everything will be heading up. Why would he come out and say that? Why, because he wasnt at fault and saw the crash coming a long time before this. Meanwhile, the left started in on saying there was nothing to fear, why would they say that? Why, because there were to blame for it all.

2008, really? LOL, in many areas of the country, the housing market started rescinding in 2006 (while the Republicans controlled the Administration & Congress). And economists were concerned about soaring housing prices several years earlier; a good example is your area (Central Florida) in which planned low-cost communities began being enacted in the late 1990s/early 2000s, with housing starting at less than $100,000 ... but just several years later, were selling for as much as $400,000 -- despite the fact the lion's share of jobs in the area paid minimum wage.

Republicans pushed for deregulation of the banking industry; previously, banks cared about your ability to re-pay your mortgage but this care disintegrated when they were able to sell your loan off in a package of securities. Republicans also controlled the Administration & Congress while housing prices soared and began plummeting. Republicans were in charge when economists questioned the viability of the housing market but ignored the warnings. Absolutely Democrat law makers deserve blame, because they too ignored these warnings. But don't think for a second the Republican Party don't deserve the lion's share of the blame.

 

[hurricanegunner]

I didn't need the excuse of the contract. hehehehe

Commandette?

 

[ORLY!?!]

Please show me one piece of evidence that ObamaCare is "driving up prices on everything." (I'm heavily educated on the topics I write about -- I don't write from emotion.) That's completely false, and absurd considering that the law hasn't taken effect. And don't use heavily bias sources, such as the CEO of Papa John's threat to raise prices; he's long been a mouthpiece for the Republican party (nor is it likely he'll make good on his threat, given that pizza is a commodity). I didn't blame the right wing, but it's a fact that the affordability of our health care system is in a crisis that's disproportinately affecting lower/middle income families & that the domino effect will keep this problem snowballing, thus we need to do something.



2008, really? LOL, in many areas of the country, the housing market started rescinding in 2006 (while the Republicans controlled the Administration & Congress). And economists were concerned about soaring housing prices several years earlier; a good example is your area (Central Florida) in which planned low-cost communities began being enacted in the late 1990s/early 2000s, with housing starting at less than $100,000 ... but just several years later, were selling for as much as $400,000 -- despite the fact the lion's share of jobs in the area paid minimum wage.

Republicans pushed for deregulation of the banking industry; previously, banks cared about your ability to re-pay your mortgage but this care disintegrated when they were able to sell your loan off in a package of securities. Republicans also controlled the Administration & Congress while housing prices soared and began plummeting. Republicans were in charge when economists questioned the viability of the housing market but ignored the warnings. Absolutely Democrat law makers deserve blame, because they too ignored these warnings. But don't think for a second the Republican Party don't deserve the lion's share of the blame.

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All of a sudden hes a teacher on economics! I find that funny since you bring it up now, not in the past.

I really cant understand, I just proven the facts, yet it still flies its the right side whos at fault. What the hell man, does it have to hit you in the face before it becomes reality. This is such a joke!

I find it so damn funny that " AN EDUCATRDed man " still has to blame the right for the crash made by the left. It thinkins my blood, hahahahahAHAHAha too damn funny.

 

[Indecisi0n]

I really believe that people who believe Obama care is running up health care cost are uneducated morons.

 

[moreluck]

I really believe that people who believe Obama care is running up health care cost are uneducated morons.

So you believe what Obama said about ACA lowering everybody's med. costs........now who's naive, Kate?

 

[Bagels]

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All of a sudden hes a teacher on economics! I find that funny since you bring it up now, not in the past.

I really cant understand, I just proven the facts, yet it still flies its the right side whos at fault. What the hell man, does it have to hit you in the face before it becomes reality. This is such a joke!

I find it so damn funny that " AN EDUCATRDed man " still has to blame the right for the crash made by the left. It thinkins my blood, hahahahahAHAHAha too damn funny.

Sorry for being blunt, but you're an idiot. Fallacies aren't fact. I know it's tough to accept. Guess that's why you turned into such a turd.

 

[Bagels]

So you believe what Obama said about ACA lowering everybody's med. costs........now who's naive, Kate?

Please provide evidence that ObamaCare, which hasn't even taken effect yet (!), has increased the cost of health care -- keeping in mind that the cost of health care has accelerated over the past 30 years, as employers increasingly dump/dilute health insurance.

 

[Covemastah]

UPS will be answering to WALL STREET this time around, and don't think this won't weigh on their greedy Brown heads down at the Crystal palace in Atlanta !!

 

[ORLY!?!]

Thats ok, it is your right to say those things. But O-care is one the biggest pushers these days when it comes to rising healthcare costs. It is why this debate is happening with UPS around the country, its O-care man. The fines are being viewed and calculated into the factoring equation.

Found a nice little page titled " Obama care Pros and cons ".

Top 10 Pros & Cons - Obamacare / Health Care Laws - ProCon.org

I'm fond of number five on the list. As read in paragraph 2; " CMS [Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services] says that the health care law will impose billions of dollars in annual fees on manufacturers and importers of brand-name prescription drugs and on health insurance plans, and new taxes on medical device sales. CMS said it anticipates that these new fees and taxes will be passed down to consumers in the form of higher drug and device prices and higher insurance premiums, raising health care costs from $2.1 billion in 2011 to $18.2 billion in 2018. "

The rest of them are quite interesting as well. At numer one, the topic at hand. People around the country, even those supplied with coverage from their employers, would end up losing it. Thus it goes on, quality of care would suffer, big surprise there. Pending that government start buying companies of the people, looks a lot like socialism traits. It goes on and on, its a good read. All are highly educated and creditable people.

I really cant help but to laugh when the truth is upon us, its here and shines bright, yet is still shot down. If one is so well read up on this subject, then I suggest one put down the communist manifesto. I'm also a believer that George Soros has a hand in a lot of the happenings in our time in history. He is a known killer of economy and values, over all a very bad person to be even close to our or any government. And here I am talking about Obama and Soros together.. well I could even throw in known card carrying communist Van Jones to the equation. Are you guys sure this isnt Russia?

To me, some of you guys just come off as people who hate this country, its history and its future. I cant help but feel pain for you.

 

[Jones]

Thats ok, it is your right to say those things. But O-care is one the biggest pushers these days when it comes to rising healthcare costs. It is why this debate is happening with UPS around the country, its O-care man. The fines are being viewed and calculated into the factoring equation.

Found a nice little page titled " Obama care Pros and cons ".

Top 10 Pros & Cons - Obamacare / Health Care Laws - ProCon.org

I'm fond of number five on the list. As read in paragraph 2; " CMS [Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services] says that the health care law will impose billions of dollars in annual fees on manufacturers and importers of brand-name prescription drugs and on health insurance plans, and new taxes on medical device sales. CMS said it anticipates that these new fees and taxes will be passed down to consumers in the form of higher drug and device prices and higher insurance premiums, raising health care costs from $2.1 billion in 2011 to $18.2 billion in 2018. "

The rest of them are quite interesting as well. At numer one, the topic at hand. People around the country, even those supplied with coverage from their employers, would end up losing it. Thus it goes on, quality of care would suffer, big surprise there. Pending that government start buying companies of the people, looks a lot like socialism traits. It goes on and on, its a good read. All are highly educated and creditable people.

I really cant help but to laugh when the truth is upon us, its here and shines bright, yet is still shot down. If one is so well read up on this subject, then I suggest one put down the communist manifesto. I'm also a believer that George Soros has a hand in a lot of the happenings in our time in history. He is a known killer of economy and values, over all a very bad person to be even close to our or any government. And here I am talking about Obama and Soros together.. well I could even throw in known card carrying communist Van Jones to the equation. Are you guys sure this isnt Russia?

To me, some of you guys just come off as people who hate this country, its history and its future. I cant help but feel pain for you.

Did you actually read all of number 5, or just the part that said what you want to hear? Not that it's all that important since all that site does is present two opposing predictions for what might happen.
Beyond that your post starts sounding like tinfoilhat.com, especially when you start ranting about George Soros like he's the anti-christ....

 

[ibleedbrown]

how come you didn't mention any of the pros? our country is in a huge mess right now and both sides (are the same side by the way) are at fault. bush made trillion dollar tax cuts for the uber wealthy and their wealth grew as the average Joe's went down, trickle down my ***** it was trickle down alright the yellow kind of trickle. bush put us in 2 wars knowing full well we couldn't afford it. so if you want to blame anyone don't forget to include bush as well. both sides of the political spectrum are at fault.

 

[ORLY!?!]

Did you actually read all of number 5, or just the part that said what you want to hear? Not that it's all that important since all that site does is present two opposing predictions for what might happen.
Beyond that your post starts sounding like tinfoilhat.com, especially when you start ranting about George Soros like he's the anti-christ....

I chose a segment of what was being said. As for the CMS (cooperation) said, which is apart of social security. A clear example of what I've been saying all along. Note the date, this was said back in 2010, probably even later then that.

George Soros has been to blame for toppling other countries economy. One should wise to have this guy in suspect. All around attack on our economy to deflate the value of the dollar, weaken its people and an attempt to bring around civil unrest, choas and others. Total out going control of the people.

And here we go again deny, deny and deny again. The truth hurts man.

As for ibleedbrown. Obama has spent more then any other president in our history combined, and in just four years. The wars over seas was just a drop in the bucket to this guys spending. I can recall the left screaming and ranting over the spending, yet nothing in is said about the trillions spent in the matter of years over a economy the left had created. Again, your guys side is so bias on what the right is doing, yet say nothing over the atrocities the left create and do on a daily basis.

Bravo, keep telling yourself its gonna be ok!