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ibleedbrown

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did you read the part where i said both sides are at fault? did you read the part where i said both sides are the same side? they want us at each others throats, it's similar to the union/management dilemma we find ourselves in. divide and conquer tactics. we all need to work together instead of against each other. you just want to blame everything on the left, you are no better than those blaming everything on the right.

oh and keep telling yourself everything would have been better had mccain and romney won!! :peaceful:
 

ORLY!?!

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Just saying, you were blaming Bush, still. Why does the big O still do this?

Romney wouldve been a million times better a choice for the times we are in now. The US government is a lot like a buisness, believe it for not. Romney is a big buisness guy, he knows a thing or two about numbers, I bet my last dollar he was the choice to get the economy back on track. I think the democrats wouldve blamed him for doing so as well.
 

pretender

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I chose a segment of what was being said. As for the CMS (cooperation) said, which is apart of social security. A clear example of what I've been saying all along. Note the date, this was said back in 2010, probably even later then that.

George Soros has been to blame for toppling other countries economy. One should wise to have this guy in suspect. All around attack on our economy to deflate the value of the dollar, weaken its people and an attempt to bring around civil unrest, choas and others. Total out going control of the people.

And here we go again deny, deny and deny again. The truth hurts man.

As for ibleedbrown. Obama has spent more then any other president in our history combined, and in just four years. The wars over seas was just a drop in the bucket to this guys spending. I can recall the left screaming and ranting over the spending, yet nothing in is said about the trillions spent in the matter of years over a economy the left had created. Again, your guys side is so bias on what the right is doing, yet say nothing over the atrocities the left create and do on a daily basis.

Bravo, keep telling yourself its gonna be ok!

George Soros 'makes $1.2bn betting against yen' | Business | The Guardian
 

bbsam

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If the government was like a business, the last thing they would be doing is cutting spending. "Loans at 0%? Keep raising the limit!!!"
Just saying, you were blaming Bush, still. Why does the big O still do this?

Romney wouldve been a million times better a choice for the times we are in now. The US government is a lot like a buisness, believe it for not. Romney is a big buisness guy, he knows a thing or two about numbers, I bet my last dollar he was the choice to get the economy back on track. I think the democrats wouldve blamed him for doing so as well.
 

bbsam

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But of course! Inflation, devaluing and creating chaos is in this guys MO. One could even point the muslim spring on him. I guess hes just the type of man who just likes to see the world burn.

that is the description of a hedge hind.
 

ORLY!?!

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If the government was like a business, the last thing they would be doing is cutting spending. "Loans at 0%? Keep raising the limit!!!"

You have to understand how to run a buisness. You have to spend to make money, as you're pointing out. But you also have to make the product / service valued into a income of profit. They spend way too much and expect nothing in return. They create government jobs and thusly expect nothing in return, a product, a service or a profit. Take a look at USPS, they keep saying things are changing and we will be like UPS and fedex. If UPS and fedex acted like USPS, we've would have been out of buisness a long time ago.

You have to not spend as much as you take in, its simple. You need to make a profit, pay taxes ( which they dont, imagen if they did! ) and invest into other projects to insure a larger profit in the next quarter ( 3 months ) or next year. Or, alike UPS, unvest into companies to make it cheaper to re-tread tires, for an example.

But no one in government wants to touch the subject on spending. They talk, but nothing gets done about it. There hasnt been a budget in what 4-5 years now? To each and every buisness looking to make it, needs a budget. Take a look at this video to see how much government actually spends during a fiscal year and it will make you sick.

EAT THE RICH! - YouTube
 

bbsam

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But government is only LIKE a business, not a business. It in exists to serve the public, not make a profit or even to break ven for that matter. If the services desired are not to be paid for by borrowing, then taxes must go up. It is a farce to think that businesses or companies run a balance income/payout system. So right now with interest rates at 0% the question should not be on cut or not cut. It should be how big can we do infrastructure and energy programs with the ceap money because eventually we will have to do them anyway.n Its not like Microsoft and Exxon are building their own global highway system. Borrowing make perfect business and public sense.
 

ORLY!?!

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But government is only LIKE a business, not a business. It in exists to serve the public, not make a profit or even to break ven for that matter. If the services desired are not to be paid for by borrowing, then taxes must go up. It is a farce to think that businesses or companies run a balance income/payout system. So right now with interest rates at 0% the question should not be on cut or not cut. It should be how big can we do infrastructure and energy programs with the ceap money because eventually we will have to do them anyway.n Its not like Microsoft and Exxon are building their own global highway system. Borrowing make perfect business and public sense.

Government is a BIG buisness, they spend more then any other company out there in the billions of a %. They employee people and they do provide service. But that only can go so far, they dont make a profit. They cant fire their employees and keep hiring more of them. Obama keeps talking about adding more jobs, excuse me? What jobs are we talking about? Hes talking about more government jobs.

Were talking about trillions to be borrowed for or just printed up?? Well that inturn deflates the value of the dollar.

Microsoft, Exxon and Wal-mart arnt doing nothing but making a profit, paying their employees, paying taxes and turning a profit.

Government needs a buisness able person in office right now. Not a lawyer, funny, hes a constitutional lawyer to boot. They need to reduse spending big time, they need to start lettng people go. They need to shut down the fed and IRS. Start limiting the sentate and house. Letting states have the power back to create more jobs and limitless growth. Investing in solid stocks, instead of frugal ones. The list will forever go on.
 

bbsam

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I think we simply disagree. Government is not big business. Business (unless a non profit) exists soley to make a profit. Government should not aim to make a profit. Ever. It (the voters) should decide what goods and services it wants and the government should provide them in a responsible, fiscally sound manner. Paying for it is done either through borrowing or taxes. And why be afraid of inflation? All that is is the Fed correcting the amount of cash in circulation. It is part of administering a complex economy, far more complex than any business spread sheet.
 

ORLY!?!

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I think we simply disagree. Government is not big business. Business (unless a non profit) exists soley to make a profit. Government should not aim to make a profit. Ever. It (the voters) should decide what goods and services it wants and the government should provide them in a responsible, fiscally sound manner. Paying for it is done either through borrowing or taxes. And why be afraid of inflation? All that is is the Fed correcting the amount of cash in circulation. It is part of administering a complex economy, far more complex than any business spread sheet.

Sure, government isnt a big buisness, yet it sure acts like it in spending. I would love if they would make a 100% turn around, cut that non-profit BS out of the equation and start making money. And I'm sure they could if they could invest in the right things and actually put their staff to work on profitable reasources. Hell, they could take sesame street into a huge profit turn buisness, but that whole PBS aspect of things is garbage.

Why be afraid of inflation? Are you kidding me? When your paying 8-9$ a gallon for gas, milk. Pay 3.50-4.50$ a loaf of bread. 8-9$ a pound of beef. And so on and so on. Inflation in a capitalistic run country is a bad thing to be preaching for. You're asking for Marxism?

Far more complex is right! Why is government spending more then in the billions earned in % by anyone or any company? I dont see the need for it, is that the complex we are talking about? Buying buisnesses, applying health care and others that match socialism type actions is quite complex in my ears. Makes me quite sick to see our country go from work hard, earn your success to here, we the government have everything you need!

"If we can but prevent the government from wasting the labours of the people, under the pretence of taking care of them, they must become happy." Thomas Jefferson
 

Buck Fifty

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We have a few new drivers that just bought new benz and beamers....

I just bought me a new 1991 honda crx with 240,000 on it. well new to me, since it upgraded me from my 95 jeep cherokee with 352,000. I'm finally part of the 35 mpg mile club, although the mile high club still eludes me.
 
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