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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 859780" data-attributes="member: 14668"><p>The only ones who <em>truly</em> have to fear being fired over the "smallest things"....are management people.</p><p></p><p>I personally know of 6 management people in my immediate area who are out on stress leave right now. I also know of 3 who have been fired over trumped-up BS charges, all within 2 years of being eligible for retirement. UPS management shoots its wounded, eats its young, and throws its old and weak to the wolves.</p><p></p><p><em>All</em> UPS'ers....management and hourly alike...put up with BS, harassment, and impossible expectations. But the management people are not covered by a collective bargaining agreement. They have no rights, they are considered "at will" employees, and they can be arbitrarily fired at any time for any or no reason at all.</p><p></p><p>In the past, the "payoff" for management people was stock and a good pension.Today, newly-hired management people get no pension at all, and the stock isnt ever going to double in value and split for them like it did when we went public 15 years ago. As a newly-hired managment person, you will have no job security, no real opportunity for advancement, and for the most part you wont really get to "manage" anything at all. You will be little more than a puppet, a facilitator who is held responsible when things go wrong while being denied the authority or resources you need to make sure they go right.</p><p></p><p>This may sound harsh, and I dont mean it to be, but the reality is that only a naive idiot would even <em>consider</em> going into management for UPS today. I have no regrets whatsoever about the choice I made to go into driving. I make decent money, and after 24 years my sanity and integrity are still intact. All complaining aside, the money and benefits are worth the BS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soberups, post: 859780, member: 14668"] The only ones who [I]truly[/I] have to fear being fired over the "smallest things"....are management people. I personally know of 6 management people in my immediate area who are out on stress leave right now. I also know of 3 who have been fired over trumped-up BS charges, all within 2 years of being eligible for retirement. UPS management shoots its wounded, eats its young, and throws its old and weak to the wolves. [I]All[/I] UPS'ers....management and hourly alike...put up with BS, harassment, and impossible expectations. But the management people are not covered by a collective bargaining agreement. They have no rights, they are considered "at will" employees, and they can be arbitrarily fired at any time for any or no reason at all. In the past, the "payoff" for management people was stock and a good pension.Today, newly-hired management people get no pension at all, and the stock isnt ever going to double in value and split for them like it did when we went public 15 years ago. As a newly-hired managment person, you will have no job security, no real opportunity for advancement, and for the most part you wont really get to "manage" anything at all. You will be little more than a puppet, a facilitator who is held responsible when things go wrong while being denied the authority or resources you need to make sure they go right. This may sound harsh, and I dont mean it to be, but the reality is that only a naive idiot would even [I]consider[/I] going into management for UPS today. I have no regrets whatsoever about the choice I made to go into driving. I make decent money, and after 24 years my sanity and integrity are still intact. All complaining aside, the money and benefits are worth the BS. [/QUOTE]
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