center manager go's off on driver in PCM

chuchu · Dec 20, 2013

[quote="jumpman23, post: 1240913, member: 40276"Punk that son of a bitch down. Thats bs i woulda put a scare in him like he aint never been scared in his life. He woulda seen what a crazy person really looks like lol.[/quote]

Yes, he'll see what a crazy person looks like ....... ten days later at the local hearing and then the next month at the state panel.

Catatonic · Dec 20, 2013

chuchu said:
[quote="jumpman23, post: 1240913, member: 40276"Punk that son of a bitch down. Thats bs i woulda put a scare in him like he aint never been scared in his life. He woulda seen what a crazy person really looks like lol.

Yes, he'll see what a crazy person looks like ....... ten days later at the local hearing and then the next month at the state panel.[/quote]
Oh, come on and let him be the Macho Man on here! It doesn't hurt. :grounch_day:

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Dec 21, 2013

chuchu said:
Vote yourselves in a steward (and alternate steward) that's honest.

Our steward had an unreported accident on Thursday. Hit a dog run. Thought he had worked out a deal with the homeowner. Homeowner called the toll free number. Steward will work last 2 days of Peak before discipline, if any, is given.

chuchu · Dec 21, 2013

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Our steward had an unreported accident on Thursday. Hit a dog run. Thought he had worked out a deal with the homeowner. Homeowner called the toll free number. Steward will work last 2 days of Peak before discipline, if any, is given.

We (in our center) don't get charged with an accident for hitting a dog (non-fixed object).

Why would you take a chance of being charged with not reporting even an accident that is not avoidable? It's still not reporting.

DSM515 · Dec 21, 2013

chuchu said:
You have to talk wih the center manager first and sinice he did it in public he should apologize to the driver in the same public setting.

If he won't, file. But you have to give him a chance to fix it first.

That's the plan, but you know he will never do that. I think they take a class on how too treat people like crap. I'm glad my parents can be proud on how they raised me. Treat others how you want to be treated.

bottomups · Dec 21, 2013

chuchu said:
We (in our center) don't get charged with an accident for hitting a dog (non-fixed object).

Why would you take a chance of being charged with not reporting even an accident that is not avoidable? It's still not reporting.

If I read Upstates post correctly, the driver hit a dog run cable. Should have been reported.
We recently had a driver returned to service for a nonreported accident because it is peak and needed the extra body. Should set a pretty good precedent for any future nonreports in the future.

over9five · Dec 21, 2013

Why is a thread about a UPS manager acting like a fool now in the Union forums?
Someone trying to hide these threads?

soberups · Dec 21, 2013

Might sound surprising coming from me, but if I were the driver who had the accident and the if center manager was an otherwise decent sort who was simply having a peak-season mental meltdown, I might be inclined to cut him a bit of slack if he were willing to make a brief and sincere public apology at the next PCM. He might wind up being a better manager in the long run if he got to learn something from that teachable moment rather than getting embroiled in a pissing match at a grievance hearing. I think we have all been overwhelmed and made an ass of ourselves in public at some point in our lives; I know I have. Of course, if this behavior was typical for the center manager then some harsh consequences are probably in order.

chuchu · Dec 21, 2013

soberups said:
Might sound surprising coming from me, but if I were the driver who had the accident and the if center manager was an otherwise decent sort who was simply having a peak-season mental meltdown, I might be inclined to cut him a bit of slack if he were willing to make a brief and sincere public apology at the next PCM. He might wind up being a better manager in the long run if he got to learn something from that teachable moment rather than getting embroiled in a pissing match at a grievance hearing. I think we have all been overwhelmed and made an ass of ourselves in public at some point in our lives; I know I have. Of course, if this behavior was typical for the center manager then some harsh consequences are probably in order.

That's my point too.

We've had both kinds of managers. After dealing with the sups that were predominantly abusive and liars you learn the difference between the motives.

Like I've said before, if it's an isolated issue its different than someone who likes to harass employees on a general basis.

We all makes mistakes. You get what you give. Keep that in mind when you bar b que another person after they make an honest mistake that's not true to their nature.

chuchu · Dec 21, 2013

DSM515 said:
That's the plan, but you know he will never do that. I think they take a class on how too treat people like crap. I'm glad my parents can be proud on how they raised me. Treat others how you want to be treated.

I've seen the good employees apologize (management and houly).
The rest go to hearings.

oldngray · Dec 21, 2013

Hoaxster said:
Yes, he'll see what a crazy person looks like ....... ten days later at the local hearing and then the next month at the state panel.

Oh, come on and let him be the Macho Man on here! It doesn't hurt. :grounch_day:

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You Can Be A Macho Man too!

Bubblehead · Dec 21, 2013

over9five said:
Why is a thread about a UPS manager acting like a fool now in the Union forums?
Someone trying to hide these threads?

We aren't allowed to question moderator decisions, are we?
It's hard work being omnipotent.

oldngray · Dec 21, 2013

Bubblehead said:
We aren't allowed to question moderator decisions, are we?
It's hard work being omnipotent.

Better omnipotent than impotent.

Bubblehead · Dec 21, 2013

Bubblehead said:
We aren't allowed to question moderator decisions, are we?
It's hard work being omnipotent.

I am learning the TOS, one violation at a time.

grgrcr88 · Dec 21, 2013

They tried that :censored2:

one time in my center. Never again will a driver be forced to stand in front of the work group and describe ay crash or injury. We don't even allow management to use the employees name when they are talking about it to the work group!!

beavis · Dec 21, 2013

soberups said:
Might sound surprising coming from me, but if I were the driver who had the accident and the if center manager was an otherwise decent sort who was simply having a peak-season mental meltdown, I might be inclined to cut him a bit of slack if he were willing to make a brief and sincere public apology at the next PCM. He might wind up being a better manager in the long run if he got to learn something from that teachable moment rather than getting embroiled in a pissing match at a grievance hearing. I think we have all been overwhelmed and made an ass of ourselves in public at some point in our lives; I know I have. Of course, if this behavior was typical for the center manager then some harsh consequences are probably in order.

From the original poster earlier in this thread it sounds like this particular manager wasn't an otherwise decent sort. Mental meltowns are part of being human but that doesn't mean they shouldn't carry consequences. If he doesn't at least apologize he should be held responsible for his actions or he will inevitably do it again.

UnconTROLLed · Dec 21, 2013

soberups said:
Might sound surprising coming from me, but if I were the driver who had the accident and the if center manager was an otherwise decent sort who was simply having a peak-season mental meltdown, I might be inclined to cut him a bit of slack if he were willing to make a brief and sincere public apology at the next PCM. He might wind up being a better manager in the long run if he got to learn something from that teachable moment rather than getting embroiled in a pissing match at a grievance hearing. I think we have all been overwhelmed and made an ass of ourselves in public at some point in our lives; I know I have. Of course, if this behavior was typical for the center manager then some harsh consequences are probably in order.

Sorry but I have a hard time believing a manager, ego-trip and psychopathy and all, is going to apologize for what likely was a very well thought out public shaming. This was no mental slip; in fact I'd say the steward was notified in advance.

East coast navy · Dec 21, 2013

Someone should have recorded it and then sent it to Atlanta with a blank grievance that says do you want harassment on your door step.

UpstateNYUPSer(Ret) · Dec 21, 2013

chuchu said:
We (in our center) don't get charged with an accident for hitting a dog (non-fixed object).

Why would you take a chance of being charged with not reporting even an accident that is not avoidable? It's still not reporting.

Go back and re-read my post a bit more carefully. I said dog run, which is usually a cable run between the house and a tree.

chuchu · Dec 21, 2013

UpstateNYUPSer said:
Go back and re-read my post a bit more carefully. I said dog run, which is usually a cable run between the house and a tree.

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