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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 84097" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Whether the test is bias or not I can't say but you are dead on the money about the applicants with staff background moving up into positions of directing this company. These folks have little and in most cases no experience at all from the trenches where the rubber meets the road. Years ago, we had an IE manager that told his people that is they came up with a plan they themselves had to first go out and actually perform the task and prove they could do it before they held someone else accountable for doing it. This guy also had come up through the ranks and knew how it all worked and boy did we get the work done in those days. Also explained his common sense approach to it all as well. Can't say that now!</p><p> </p><p>Last year we had one of those rocket scientist desk jockeys determine that the correct unload rate for a 4 stage extendo was 1800 pph. Now first off there are 3600 seconds in an hour so doing the math that means you place a package on the extendo every 2 seconds during that hour to make that rate. Now our rocket scientist may say, "well some packages can be double and triple stacked on the belt to achieve this time if need be" but tell me ole' little one, how does this square with the UPS operation method of one package at a time, label up and with hand to surface methods? Every look at the methods video or read the hub methods manual before you did your study? Do you even know what that is or that they exist? Probably not. How do you propose to make your goal when in a 53' trailer and the extendo only goes in 40 feet? What about the time for the mechanical operation of extending and retracting the unit not to mention the adjusting the vertical height and repositioning of the load stand to maintain working in your power zone? </p><p> </p><p>Now here's the real kicker. Look at the belt speed itself. Measure the feet per minute and then determine the total distance traveled in a 1 hour period. Now divide your 1800 pph number into that distance to achieve a center of package to center of package distance and you'll arrive at the magic measure of 27 inches. So you're telling me that you want an unload rate that requires you to place a package on the belt every 27 inches? Folks, those of you with any experience at all dealing with packages and the size we're running now, do you believe it's possible to sort placing a package on the mark every 27 inches, every 2 seconds for the entire sort span and get all our packages to fit within this measured framework? Now I've seen people in certian loads have moments where this number was hit for a period of time but for some idiot to draft up a plan using that number and conditions as an achiveable figure and then try and lock in a sort to a business plan based on that figure is IMO nuts! And then later you cry in your Wheaties because you can't understand why you're not making your business plan. "Plan the work and work the plan" or now we've changed that to "Plan to fail, work to fail and you will!" <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/lol.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Lol :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p> </p><p>To quote myself again, "these folks have little and in most case no experience at all from the trenches where the rubber meets the road!" Tie, if that's where you going, preach it brother! You're 1000% correct and you and I for sure don't always agree but I'm right with ya on this one! </p><p> </p><p>Sorry, this thread struke a nerve with me that I've seen with my own eyes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 84097, member: 2189"] Whether the test is bias or not I can't say but you are dead on the money about the applicants with staff background moving up into positions of directing this company. These folks have little and in most cases no experience at all from the trenches where the rubber meets the road. Years ago, we had an IE manager that told his people that is they came up with a plan they themselves had to first go out and actually perform the task and prove they could do it before they held someone else accountable for doing it. This guy also had come up through the ranks and knew how it all worked and boy did we get the work done in those days. Also explained his common sense approach to it all as well. Can't say that now! Last year we had one of those rocket scientist desk jockeys determine that the correct unload rate for a 4 stage extendo was 1800 pph. Now first off there are 3600 seconds in an hour so doing the math that means you place a package on the extendo every 2 seconds during that hour to make that rate. Now our rocket scientist may say, "well some packages can be double and triple stacked on the belt to achieve this time if need be" but tell me ole' little one, how does this square with the UPS operation method of one package at a time, label up and with hand to surface methods? Every look at the methods video or read the hub methods manual before you did your study? Do you even know what that is or that they exist? Probably not. How do you propose to make your goal when in a 53' trailer and the extendo only goes in 40 feet? What about the time for the mechanical operation of extending and retracting the unit not to mention the adjusting the vertical height and repositioning of the load stand to maintain working in your power zone? Now here's the real kicker. Look at the belt speed itself. Measure the feet per minute and then determine the total distance traveled in a 1 hour period. Now divide your 1800 pph number into that distance to achieve a center of package to center of package distance and you'll arrive at the magic measure of 27 inches. So you're telling me that you want an unload rate that requires you to place a package on the belt every 27 inches? Folks, those of you with any experience at all dealing with packages and the size we're running now, do you believe it's possible to sort placing a package on the mark every 27 inches, every 2 seconds for the entire sort span and get all our packages to fit within this measured framework? Now I've seen people in certian loads have moments where this number was hit for a period of time but for some idiot to draft up a plan using that number and conditions as an achiveable figure and then try and lock in a sort to a business plan based on that figure is IMO nuts! And then later you cry in your Wheaties because you can't understand why you're not making your business plan. "Plan the work and work the plan" or now we've changed that to "Plan to fail, work to fail and you will!" :lol: To quote myself again, "these folks have little and in most case no experience at all from the trenches where the rubber meets the road!" Tie, if that's where you going, preach it brother! You're 1000% correct and you and I for sure don't always agree but I'm right with ya on this one! Sorry, this thread struke a nerve with me that I've seen with my own eyes. [/QUOTE]
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